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Americas Elliot Bay Thread

Hi JATT,

Yes, I've found my vehicle. It's on the Morning Chant (Vessel). The ship just cleared the Panama Canal and is en route Ecuador. Then up heading north.
Expected into Port of Tacoma at 0500, Saturday, November 11th.

Can't wait. The money part is coming. Not looking forward to 10.55% sales tax or use tax. Not sure what it is...

Is your Grenadier on the Morning Chant?

Sparo :)
 
Sparo said:
Hi JATT,

Yes, I've found my vehicle. It's on the Morning Chant (Vessel). The ship just cleared the Panama Canal and is en route Ecuador. Then up heading north.
Expected into Port of Tacoma at 0500, Saturday, November 11th.

Can't wait. The money part is coming. Not looking forward to 10.55% sales tax or use tax. Not sure what it is...

Is your Grenadier on the Morning Chant?

Sparo :)
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I do not see the "Morning Chant" in the list.
What is the Cust Ref# for it?
 
Sparo said:
Hi JATT,

Yes, I've found my vehicle. It's on the Morning Chant (Vessel). The ship just cleared the Panama Canal and is en route Ecuador. Then up heading north.
Expected into Port of Tacoma at 0500, Saturday, November 11th.

Can't wait. The money part is coming. Not looking forward to 10.55% sales tax or use tax. Not sure what it is...

Is your Grenadier on the Morning Chant?

Sparo :)
Click to expand...
Don’t forget RTA tax if you live in the sound transit RTA zone. Makes me want to puke.
 
Did the test drive last week on the IG Field Master. I have driven Willys jeep back in the day along with many other relics. Currently driving a F150 and an Audi A8L to compare.

1. Steering: Will get used to it.
First right turn on the IG and I have to quickly grab and correct the steering. Mostly the same as the old G-Wagon.
2. Space: Doable
Coming from F150 and A8L, which are large vehicles, it felt a bit small and congested but you get used to it.
3. Luxury: None, but was known.
My 2011 F150 feels more luxurious from inside. Too much plastic and pretty basic if you compare. But feels sturdy, solid built and seats were comfortable.
4. Price: Steep but you get an exclusive product.
Interior and features feel it should be around $70k but it is what it is. Consider buying if you want to keep it for long term (Last ICE vehicle). It would hold its value if there are no major issues.
5. Center screen: Will get used to it.
I see an easy solution for heads-up display and there is a flat surface in front of the driver for placement.
6. Back Visibility: Low but I never used it on my Truck, so I am fine.
Inside Rear view mirror doesn't cover much and the backup camera is not the best. I guess we will get used to it.
7. Power: Adequate till 75 Mph
Motor is peppy and easily pull 70+ MPH but the past 80 will be a slow go. But it gets the job done. No issues to report. Reliability and Longevity is a must.

It's a vehicle where you are involved all the time driving it and it doesn't drive itself. Build it the way you want it and you will always have a big smile on the face.

Summary: Let's do it
 
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JATT said:
Did the test drive last week on the IG Field Master. I have driven Willys jeep back in the day along with many other relics. Currently driving a F150 and an Audi A8L to compare.

1. Steering: Will get used to it.
First right turn on the IG and I have to quickly grab and correct the steering. Mostly the same as the old G-Wagon.
2. Space: Doable
Coming from F150 and A8L, which are large vehicles, it felt a bit small and congested but you get used to it.
3. Luxury: None, but was known.
My 2011 F150 feels more luxurious from inside. Too much plastic and pretty basic if you compare. But feels sturdy, solid built and seats were comfortable.
4. Price: Steep but you get an exclusive product.
Interior and features feel it should be around $70k but it is what it is. Consider buying if you want to keep it for long term (Last ICE vehicle). It would hold its value if there are no major issues.
5. Center screen: Will get used to it.
I see an easy solution for heads-up display and there is a flat surface in front of the driver for placement.
6. Back Visibility: Low but I never used it on my Truck, so I am fine.
Inside Rear view mirror doesn't cover much and the backup camera is not the best. I guess we will get used to it.
7. Power: Adequate till 75 Mph
Motor is peppy and easily pull 70+ MPH but the past 80 will be a slow go. But it gets the job done. No issues to report.

It's a vehicle where you are involved all the time driving it and it doesn't drive itself. Build it the way you want it and you will always have a big smile on the face.

Summary: Let's do it
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I would sum it up as not a few fingers on the wheel while you hold onto your coffee
 
chtucker said:
I would sum it up as not a few fingers on the wheel while you hold onto your coffee
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Some of us got good at driving while holding on to our coffees.... It didn't take much effort
 
JATT said:
Did the test drive last week on the IG Field Master. I have driven Willys jeep back in the day along with many other relics. Currently driving a F150 and an Audi A8L to compare.

1. Steering: Will get used to it.
First right turn on the IG and I have to quickly grab and correct the steering. Mostly the same as the old G-Wagon.
2. Space: Doable
Coming from F150 and A8L, which are large vehicles, it felt a bit small and congested but you get used to it.
3. Luxury: None, but was known.
My 2011 F150 feels more luxurious from inside. Too much plastic and pretty basic if you compare. But feels sturdy, solid built and seats were comfortable.
4. Price: Steep but you get an exclusive product.
Interior and features feel it should be around $70k but it is what it is. Consider buying if you want to keep it for long term (Last ICE vehicle). It would hold its value if there are no major issues.
5. Center screen: Will get used to it.
I see an easy solution for heads-up display and there is a flat surface in front of the driver for placement.
6. Back Visibility: Low but I never used it on my Truck, so I am fine.
Inside Rear view mirror doesn't cover much and the backup camera is not the best. I guess we will get used to it.
7. Power: Adequate till 75 Mph
Motor is peppy and easily pull 70+ MPH but the past 80 will be a slow go. But it gets the job done. No issues to report. Reliability and Longevity is a must.

It's a vehicle where you are involved all the time driving it and it doesn't drive itself. Build it the way you want it and you will always have a big smile on the face.

Summary: Let's do it
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Hi JATT,

Agreed, "a vehicle where you are involved all the time driving it and it doesn't drive itself", excellent summary.

Also, called my EBA sales rep today regarding my Grenadier's arrival (Morning Chant) on November 11th at the Port of Tacoma. Their (EBA) system still says in "production" and the sales rep was very happy to hear this information. They're not sure how long the vehicles will stay in the port (area) and he mentioned there could be customs, campaigns and other delays. Moreover, I think November 11th may be the first shipment for EBA and other dealership in the northwest beyond the demos.

Thanks again for a great write-up and honest feedback. It's totally on point. I had similar impressions during my test drive.

Sparo :)
 
My wife and I just drove the Ineos with Patrick from EBM; the drive was great. My daily driver is an LX570, and it drives like a tank. It felt very similar driving the Ineos. Other than the poor rear-view visibility, everything was as expected!
 

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Test drove yesterday and for sure they’re an awesome vehicle! I really do not see how they’re gonna charge 105k and expect many people other than us “core” group of defender loyalists to buy them. It’s not going to be for everyone and being double what a land cruiser is and 5-30k more than a defender there might be some issues with sales.

I walked away thinking wow… we owe ineos for making this car because it doesn’t belong here at this time. It’s a very very special car for sure and I REALLY wish it would have been an option in the 90’s early 2000’s as that’s what it competes against best.
 
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