Does TDI not sell to the worlds 5th largest economy?

[Dual Grenny Guy]

If you are looking for max fuel economy set it to Level 1. One of my customers is getting 19MPG hand calculated on long drives in Florida at Level 1. I pair this or the Agile tuner and sell with the IO Pedal tuner. I see a huge difference when paired with our Kooks Exhaust system given it has less back flow. If you are interested in the IO Pedal tuner, I have those too and sold 3 this week. 704-682-9323 Thanks, David I do have to finish editing more videos of this as well for our YouTube channel.

I enjoy seeing vendors post on the forum, many do. Probably next month you will get an order for a Kooks exhaust set up from an old timer in Louisiana.

 

[[ Adam ]]

That is not a bad idea.

I've been looking for an excuse to ship a vehicle to LA and drive Baja...

 

[Michael_in_Baja]

Find a buddy out of state and ship it there

Problem solved.

 

[ORSO]

you made me curious and I sent an email for some clarifications.
since someone seems to have already mounted it I ask you my doubts:
- is the box waterproof? it must be inside the engine which is not exactly the cleanest place for an electronic component.
- when you take the car for a service with the relative software update do you have to physically disconnect everything?
- do you have a couple of photos of the finished work? where are the connectors positioned?
- do you notice the difference compared to the original mapping?

thanks

 

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[David Czarnecki]

I enjoy seeing vendors post on the forum, many do. Probably next month you will get an order for a Kooks exhaust set up from an old timer in Louisiana.

Looking forward to it. If there is anything else you are looking for keep us in mind. I have to get our website fully loaded with our other partners products we furnish as well.

 

[David Czarnecki]

you made me curious and I sent an email for some clarifications.
since someone seems to have already mounted it I ask you my doubts:
- is the box waterproof? it must be inside the engine which is not exactly the cleanest place for an electronic component.
- when you take the car for a service with the relative software update do you have to physically disconnect everything?
- do you have a couple of photos of the finished work? where are the connectors positioned?
- do you notice the difference compared to the original mapping?

thanks

The TDI Tuner and the Agile Offroad tuner both are appear to be water proof. The both mount in front of the brake booster area, basically on the left (driver's side) inside fender. Where you find the electrical outputs to connect EXT1 at for example. The portions that plug into the boost sensors and cam phaser (rpm) are reappy well done on both and are very similar to OEM. The directions on the Agile site for installation insttructions show pictures. Either can be installed with no tools which is cool. I would recommend that you remove before taking to the dealer which is a 5 minute task. The performance is significently improved especially with our Kooks Cat Back exhuast. I have some video.

View: https://youtu.be/fR8HQHF_1_Y?si=Va03ts-p6oUHjHuj

 

[Dual Grenny Guy]

The TDI Tuner and the Agile Offroad tuner both are appear to be water proof. The both mount in front of the brake booster area, basically on the left (driver's side) inside fender. Where you find the electrical outputs to connect EXT1 at for example. The portions that plug into the boost sensors and cam phaser (rpm) are reappy well done on both and are very similar to OEM. The directions on the Agile site for installation insttructions show pictures. Either can be installed with no tools which is cool. I would recommend that you remove before taking to the dealer which is a 5 minute task. The performance is significently improved especially with our Kooks Cat Back exhuast. I have some video.

View: https://youtu.be/fR8HQHF_1_Y?si=Va03ts-p6oUHjHuj

Can you please post that video when all the testing is done and you explain the difference between the tunes? Really interested in the outcome. Thanks..

 

[Michael_in_Baja]

you made me curious and I sent an email for some clarifications.
since someone seems to have already mounted it I ask you my doubts:
- is the box waterproof? it must be inside the engine which is not exactly the cleanest place for an electronic component.
- when you take the car for a service with the relative software update do you have to physically disconnect everything?
- do you have a couple of photos of the finished work? where are the connectors positioned?
- do you notice the difference compared to the original mapping?

thanks

I will reporr on my experience when mine arrives, maybe others can answer these questions sooner.

From what I have seen the box is waterproof and quite robust. As far as disconnecting it. As I undestand it there are three plugs and all easily accessed.

 

[Michael_in_Baja]

If you are looking for max fuel economy set it to Level 1. One of my customers is getting 19MPG hand calculated on long drives in Florida at Level 1. I pair this or the Agile tuner and sell with the IO Pedal tuner. I see a huge difference when paired with our Kooks Exhaust system given it has less back flow. If you are interested in the IO Pedal tuner, I have those too and sold 3 this week. 704-682-9323 Thanks, David I do have to finish editing more videos of this as well for our YouTube channel.

I installed this today. The initial default setting is #4 for 20 miles to "learn" your vehicle. The install was stupid easy with three points of connection. The TDI box and loom were OEM quality. I have posted a photo of the TDI loom installed. If you can find the zip ties you can find the after market loom.

i have a 35 mile loop I run to test my new gear, it is 18 miles of stop signs and corners and 17 miles of highway. It prefectly simulates a "combined" mpg number and today I recorded 20.8 mpg, up from 17.9 on level 4 with a K&N filter not exceeding 60 mph on the highway, a 16.2% improvement on level 4.

I will repeat this loop on level 3, and level 2, and level 1 over time and report back. At 20.8, I am a super fan.

 

[Dual Grenny Guy]

I installed this today. The initial default setting is #4 for 20 miles to "learn" your vehicle.

i have a 35 mile loop I run to test my new gear, it is 18 miles of stop signs and corners and 17 miles of highway. It prefectly simulates a "combined" mpg number and today I recorded 20.8 mpg, up from 17.9 on level 4 with a K&N filter not exceeding 60 mph on the highway, a 16.2% improvement on level 4.

I will repeat this loop on level 3, and level 2, and level 1 over time and report back. At 20.8, I am a super fan.

Personally I’m not in it for the MPG, I want just a little more power. Could you feel the difference with the new tune installed (more pick up from a stop light, passing, etc)? Have you ran it at the max setting yet or is #4 the max or is it the other way around and #1 max power? Yes these are heavy as hell and won’t be winning any races, but just a little more umph is nice to have…. I was also told install is really in 5 minutes or less. What say you?

edit: anyway you can circle the 3 areas in the engine bay where the hook ups are in that 2nd pic?

 

[Michael_in_Baja]

Personally I’m not in it for the MPG, I want just a little more power. Could you feel the difference with the new tune installed (more pick up from a stop light, passing, etc)? Have you ran it at the max setting yet or is #4 the max or is it the other way around and #1 max power? Yes these are heavy as hell and won’t be winning any races, but just a little more umph is nice to have…. I was also told install is really in 5 minutes or less. What say you?

edit: anyway you can circle the 3 areas in the engine bay where the hook ups are in that 2nd pic?

I travel thousands of miles between destinations and tourque equal miles per gallon for me. Here is the tech sheet from TDI. The images TDI sent me were of a B58 in a BMW and not of a Grenadier.

There are two boost connections, and the third connection is at the cam sensor. It was super simple to install. All my driving was on the default setting of #4 which the manufacturer specifies for the first 20 miles.

Changing settings can be done with push buttons on the box or via the app. I did not deviate from the default setting nor opt to wring it out on my trip but the gains were signicant on setting #4.

I don't find any videos of this particular product being installed on the granite deer in the usual places But there are plenty of B58 videos out there on the midsize BMW's.

View: https://youtu.be/zbYLN44L6l8?si=cNlTykXCf9D6vmiU

 

[MrMike]

I travel thousands of miles between destinations and tourque equal miles per gallon for me. Here is the tech sheet from TDI. The images TDI sent me were of a B58 in a BMW and not of a Grenadier.

There are two boost connections, one measuring ambiebt air, and the other in boost. The third connection is the cam sensor. It was 5 year old simple,12 year old with no previous automotive experience.

I'm personally not convinced that the numbers they provide are true, and I'd like to put it on a dyno to confirm or otherwise but the responsiveness is definitely there, after 10 thousand klms without issue for the $ it's worthwhile. I towed 2500kgs with a combined mass of just under 6000kgs on setting 4 and returned 16.2lts/100 klms- in freedom miles that's 14.5 to the gallon @60mph

 

[Michael_in_Baja]

I'm personally not convinced that the numbers they provide are true, and I'd like to put it on a dyno to confirm or otherwise but the responsiveness is definitely there, after 10 thousand klms without issue for the $ it's worthwhile. I towed 2500kgs with a combined mass of just under 6000kgs on setting 4 and returned 16.2lts/100 klms- in freedom miles that's 14.5 to the gallon @60mph

I understand the skepticism, for $400 it was worth the effort and the TDI tuner did not disappoint.

 

[Michael_in_Baja]

Personally I’m not in it for the MPG, I want just a little more power. Could you feel the difference with the new tune installed (more pick up from a stop light, passing, etc)? Have you ran it at the max setting yet or is #4 the max or is it the other way around and #1 max power? Yes these are heavy as hell and won’t be winning any races, but just a little more umph is nice to have…. I was also told install is really in 5 minutes or less. What say you?

edit: anyway you can circle the 3 areas in the engine bay where the hook ups are in that 2nd pic?

This is the best installation video I have found for the B58. This is not the TDI tuner and it is obviously not a Grenadier but clearly shows the plugs and explains the process.

View: https://youtu.be/oajQZXST5C4?si=9HIbY-HdRGoFgDfo

 

[DaveB]

As far as it being safe, BMW released this engine to various platforms as the Worldwide Harmonized Light Vehicles Test Procedure (WLTP), as a 340-horse version dubbed ML for middle power level, while the other 374-to-388-horsepower variant is referred to as OL for upper level, and both fall under the broader designation of B58TU1.

Everything I can find on the B58TU1 indicates they can be tuned to North of 400 hp. Just because you can doesn't mean you should, and this is not a 330 series BMW weighing in at 62% more than the 3700 pound sedan. This added weight imposes added stress on the engine and transmission.

Ineos tells us peak torque of our B58 begins at about 1700 RPM. Tuning this engine can bring peak torque on at around just below 1400 rpm. Therein lies an opportunity to increase fuel economy by what TDI claims can be 15%.

The Grenadier's advertised fuel consumption is a combined 14 city / 14 highway. On my last 800 mile I observed an average / combined consumption of 17.9 mpg at an average speed of 56 mph.

My goal is to bump that to 20.5 mpg by maximizing the increased hp and torque between 2500 and 3000 rpm. I actually think I can do a little bit better than that on the TDIs tuner settings 1 or 2, still below the ML B58TU1s original specification for horsepower and torque.

The gearbox is the limiting factor.
It can't take the power or torque.

 

[David Czarnecki]

I understand the skepticism, for $400 it was worth the effort and the TDI tuner did not disappoint.

Wait till you get it set on 7.

 

[Michael_in_Baja]

Fortunately, or unfortunately I do not drive 'em like I stole 'em anymore. I spoke to a ZF rep before doing this and they claim the trans is capable beyond 730 foot pounds of torque and this only gets just over halfway there at its highest setting. An additional 10-15% increase in torque gets us back to the standard BMW tune.

 

[Dual Grenny Guy]

Fortunately, or unfortunately I do not drive 'em like I stole 'em anymore. I spoke to a ZF rep before doing this and they claim the trans is capable beyond 730 foot pounds of torque and this only gets just over halfway there at its highest setting. An additional 10-15% increase in torque gets us back to the standard BMW tune.

 

[Michael_in_Baja]

Wait till you get it set on 7.

I admire your spirit, but that's not going to happen unless an extra 30 horsepower matters in a sticky situation.

I am not even tempted. I spent every day of my life between 14 and 48 looking for more horsepower and torque. TDI tells us we get another 10 mph out of this brick at top speed, so 110? I'm good.

Btw I saw a 16.2% increase in fuel economy in my initial default run on the tuner at level 4. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast (or in this case efficient).