Coil Springs (specs v build)

[DaveB]

Don’t talk to much in the springs colour coding.
A friend of mine has nearly the exact same Fieldmaster as I have (regarding weight)
But my car is 2 cm higher at the backside than his. I will check the springs coding as soon as we stay close to each other to see whether we have the same.
A company that obviously builds in different headrests will surly be able to confuse itself which springs are to use…

Maybe his mother in law is sitting on the rear bumper

 

[DCPU]

A friend of mine has nearly the exact same Fieldmaster as I have (regarding weight)
But my car is 2 cm higher at the backside than his. I will check the springs coding as soon as we stay close to each other to see whether we have the same.

Well that's the other variable - ride height and free spring length:

 

[gkhaldi]

We need a separate thread to explain/understand all the different weight types listed in the CoC.

Actual mass of the vehicle means the mass in running order plus the mass of the fitted optional equipment to an individual vehicle.

The mass in running order is the basic vehicle with standard equipment plus a legally fixed standard weight of 75 kg for the driver.

 

[Jean Mercier]

plus a legally fixed standard weight of 75 kg for the driver.

I want a new COC: I weigh only 70 kg!

 

[Greg]

I want a new COC: I weigh only 70 kg!

So a larger and heavier COC to take you up to 75kg?

 

[DaveB]

I want a new COC: I weigh only 70 kg!

You must be only 4 foot tall.

 

[ECrider]

You must be only 4 foot tall.

A walloon pigmy!

 

[Jean Mercier]

You must be only 4 foot tall.

I don’t measure in feet, never succeeded in putting my own feet besides my body, and I have only two, therefore it never can be more.

I measure 187 cm (that is the abbreviation of centimeter) but have no fat and my bones are quit thin. And only my lower part is Walloon, the upper part is Flemish, or is it the other way around

 

[gkhaldi]

I don’t measure in feet, never succeeded in putting my own feet besides my body, and I have only two, therefore it never can be more.

I measure 187 cm (that is the abbreviation of centimeter) but have no fat and my bones are quit thin. And only my lower part is Walloon, the upper part is Flemish, or is it the other way around

Without wanting to start a discussion and all respect for everyone but I think the left part of you body is Walloon and the right is Flemish . At least that’s how Belgium is perceived by most

 

[ECrider]

ECrider; UK spec N1 SW, RHD.
5seat, diesel, winch, snorkel, rock sliders. 17" steels, Bfg. Roof bars. panels. large willy
Front: EI-0000019547 (2 red circles)
Rear: EI-0000021752 (2 blue triangles)

 

[Arkaig]

ECrider; UK spec N1 SW, RHD.
5seat, diesel, winch, snorkel, rock sliders. 17" steels, Bfg. Roof bars. panels. large willy
Front: EI-0000019547 (2 red circles)
Rear: EI-0000021752 (2 blue triangles)

I wasn't aware bespoke accessories were now available to order as factory-fit items.

 

[jeremy_matrix]

Hi Jeremy,

This is build and configuration list (serial 22XX)
"Rough Pack
- Differential Locks Front & Rear
- BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO2 Tyre
"Smooth Pack
- Rear-View Camera
- Park Assist Front (PDC)
- Power Heated Exterior Mirrors
- Heated Windscreen Washer Jets
- Central Stowage Box Lockable
- Puddle Lamps and Ambient Door Lighting
- Auxiliary Charge Points
- Advanced Anti-Theft Alarm & Immobiliser (Thatcham Cat. 1) Metallic Paint - Donny Grey
Contrast Ladder Frame - Powder Coat Red
"18"" Steel Wheel"
Spare Wheel Lockable Storage Box
Heat Reflective Privacy Glass
Safari Windows
Seating - Leather Trim - Black
Seating - Heated Front Seats
Integrated Heavy Duty Winch - 5.5 Tonnes
Fixed Towball and Electrics
Rock Sliders
Rubber Floor Mats
Foldable Tailgate Camp Table
Utility Cargo Barrier - Half-height
Cargo Management System
Off-Road Recovery Kit
Exterior Utility Belt
Nappa Leather Driver's Pack
Compass with Altimeter
Access Ladder
Rear Side Windows
Heavy Duty Utility Flooring with Drain Valves
Raised Air Intake
Auxiliary Battery
High Load Auxiliary Switch Panel & Electrical Preparation Roadside Emergency Kit
Interior Utility Rails

Hi Jeremy,

I come back to my previous statement; I believe the different colors aren’t as much for load rating as for the dual compression on the springs.The N1 version should be lighter in ‘actual state of mass” according to the COC. Since the first part of the compression springs are there to give a more compliant ride with minimal load, it would make sense that this is different depending on type of IG. All IG have a standard max weight loaded pf 3.500 kg (except for Australia where it’s 3.550 kg). So in essence, all springs mounted under the vehicle need to be able to cope with that weight.

The fact that we have different rear colors on the same M1 might come down to the tow pack and dual battery option.

Maybe everyone should provide their weight conform the COC. Mine says the following on the COC:
Mass in running order: 2.740 kg
Actual mass of the vehicle: 2.883 kg

Anyways, just my 2c

Wonderful, thank you. And you're probably correct. I'll just leave this here as we may be hunting down the wrong path...

**DIESEL** (from lighterweight to heavierweight based on the increased mass from additional options)
Voader - Oudersopzwier; EU spec N1.
5seat, diesel, no winch, 17" alloys w/ BFG KO2s.
Front: EI-0000019546 (2 green circles)
Rear: EI-0000021751 (2 red triangles)

DCPU; UK spec, N1 [which is a 2seat UtilityWagon/UW, but then you had them add the rear bench to make it a 5seat?],
5seat??, diesel, no winch, 17" steels w/ BFG KO2s.
Front: EI-0000019546 (2 green circles)
Rear: EI-0000021752 (2 blue triangles)

Arkaig; UK spec, M1 SW, Fieldmaster, RHD.
5seat, diesel, winch.
Front: EI-0000019547 (2 red circles)
Rear; ?? (??)

Tinki; UK spec M1, Trialmaster, RHD.
5seat, diesel, winch, 18" alloys w/ BFG K02s, snorkel, rock sliders.
Front: EI-0000019547 (2 red circles)
Rear: EI-0000021752 (2 blue triangles)

ECrider; UK spec N1 SW, RHD.
5seat, diesel, winch, 17" steels w/ BFG K02s, roof bars, snorkel, rock sliders, panels, large willy.
Front: EI-0000019547 (2 red circles)
Rear: EI-0000021752 (2 blue triangles)

AnD3rew; Aussie spec M1 SW, Trialmaster, RHD.
5seat, diesel, winch, 17" alloys w/ BFG K02s, roof bars, snorkel, side runner steps, bull(roo)bar, brush guards, tow bar.
Front: EI-0000019547 (2 red circles)
Rear: EI-0000021752 (2 blue triangles)

lennie_4; AUS spec, Trialmaster.
5seat, diesel, winch, (no roof rack), rock sliders, bull(roo)bar, brush guards.
Front: EI-0000019547 (2 red circles)
Rear: EI-0000021751 (2 red triangles)


**PETROL** (from lighterweight to heavierweight based on the increased mass from additional options)
Logsplitter; N1 UW commercial.
2 seat, petrol, winch, 17" steels w/ BFG KO2s, roof rack, side runner steps, dual battery, tow hitch/pack.
Front: EI-0000019546 (2 green circles)
Rear; EL- 0000019550 (2 green triangles)

Jean Mercier; EU spec M1 SW, Trialmaster, LHD.
5seat, petrol, winch, steel rim w/ BFG K02s, snorkel, dual battery, safari windows.
Mass in running order: 2.740 kg
Actual mass of the vehicle: 2.864 kg
Front: EI-0000019547 (2 red circles)
Rear: EI-0000021751 (2 red triangles)

gkhaldi; EU spec, M1 Trialmaster.
5 seat, petrol, winch, 18" steels w/ BFG K02s, snorkel, rock sliders, dual battery, safari windows, tow hitch/pack, spare wheel storage box, camp table, off-road recovery kit.
Mass in running order: 2.740 kg
Actual mass of the vehicle: 2.883 kg
Front: EI-0000019547 (2 red circles)
Rear: EI-0000021751 (2 red triangles)

Eldoret Blue up on inspection rack, Seattle WA; USA spec, M1 SW, Fieldmaster.
5seat, petrol, winch, roof rack, side runner steps, 18" alloys w/ BFG K02s.
Front: ?? (??) <might have 2 red circles based on other vehicles here>
Rear; EI-0000019650 (??)

 

[K1LL3M]

K1LL3M; Aus Spec Trialmaster SW
5seat, diesel, winch, 17" steels w/ BFG K02s, snorkel, rock sliders, tow pack, roobar, dual battery (no roof rack)
Front: EI-0000019547 (2 red circles)
Rear: EI-0000021752 (2 blue triangles)

 

[Steven Cook]

 

[ECrider]

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tks vm for that.

part no. on rear axle marries up but the one on your chart for front axle doesn't???

 

[DCPU]

I've noticed that on several other things. There seems to be two different part numbering systems. All parts on the vehicle seem to use the El prefix, whilst the parts ordering system uses the GRA prefix.

The colour purple also seems to be assigned differently in the sequence for front/rear?

 

[ECrider]

I've noticed that on several other things. There seems to be two different part numbering systems. All parts on the vehicle seem to use the El prefix, whilst the parts ordering system uses the GRA prefix.

aaah, good point. I was given a GRA number for the TPMS valves when I asked.

 

[Tinki]

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Legenbd of a man !!! thank you !!

 

[jeremy_matrix]

Thx much Steven Cook.

I've noticed that on several other things. There seems to be two different part numbering systems. All parts on the vehicle seem to use the El prefix, whilst the parts ordering system uses the GRA prefix.

The colour purple also seems to be assigned differently in the sequence for front/rear?

Agreed on the front EI #s on the actual springs.

Still perplexing why this vehicle has 2 red triangles in the rear when it doesnt have a lot of optional mass;
Voader - Oudersopzwier; EU spec N1.
5seat, diesel, no winch, 17" alloys w/ BFG KO2s.
Front: EI-0000019546 (2 green circles)
Rear: EI-0000021751 (2 red triangles)

 

[DCPU]

Are you saying they should be higher or lower?