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From working in the industry for nearly two decades, a couple things that aren't great about that option...
  • The dyno results are simply Excel-style data plots, not raw dyno charts to show actual wheel power before/after (because no engine makes dead on what the manufacturer says, and a wheel dyno will never tell you exact crank HP/TQ).
  • They make no reference to what fuel is used, recommended, or required. When you get into increasing boost and timing, the difference between 91AKI and 93AKI (or 95 and 98RON, respectively) can legitimately make a difference, let alone the drastic differences in knock protection between 87AKI and 93AKI
Piggyback's have been in use for years (it's approaching two decades specifically in the BMW turbo petrol world), and while they have come a long way, still are not a true replacement for an ECU/DME remap (because they are lying to the DME to trick it into doing what they want, instead of having specific maps for the expected values).

Just food for thought
 

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The DTE Systems version seems very expensive. I have written to them asking why it is three times the price of the competition. Their throttle control is similar price to the completion.
 

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Just let me know when you blow the drivetrain!😭
My Defender came with 110 hp. Ten years ago, Alive tuning upped that power to 236 bhp. A further 60,000 miles and still going strong. If I was to regularly put all of that horsepower into effect I’m sure I would do some damage however, the added mid range power and torque when moving from 30mph to 60 mph is extremely satisfying.
When comparing the drive components of my 20 year old Defender to the huge components of my Grenadier, there is no comparison. The Grenadier engine and gearbox are both capable of very heavy tuning. Bearing in mind the UK being somewhere that quality fuel can be guaranteed and the climate is not so hot or dusty, the only thing that would stop me from following a tuning path is the cost of insurance and warranty infringement. I have no concerns regarding the integrity of the mechanical components.
 
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blah blah blah blah blah blah .... it works. The car has a better response, it is "livelier", there is a noticeable increase in performance... that is the reality. These "shamanic" warnings, just because the Box is half the price of custom "tuning" and therefore a loss of business for someone, are childish...
From working in the industry for nearly two decades, a couple things that aren't great about that option...
  • The dyno results are simply Excel-style data plots, not raw dyno charts to show actual wheel power before/after (because no engine makes dead on what the manufacturer says, and a wheel dyno will never tell you exact crank HP/TQ).
  • They make no reference to what fuel is used, recommended, or required. When you get into increasing boost and timing, the difference between 91AKI and 93AKI (or 95 and 98RON, respectively) can legitimately make a difference, let alone the drastic differences in knock protection between 87AKI and 93AKI
Piggyback's have been in use for years (it's approaching two decades specifically in the BMW turbo petrol world), and while they have come a long way, still are not a true replacement for an ECU/DME remap (because they are lying to the DME to trick it into doing what they want, instead of having specific maps for the expected values).

Just food for thought
 
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The DTE Systems version seems very expensive. I have written to them asking why it is three times the price of the competition. Their throttle control is similar price to the completion.
Hello did you get any reply why are they so expensive? And what piggyback tunner did you finaly choose?
 

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Hello did you get any reply why are they so expensive? And what piggyback tunner did you finaly choose?
Yes I did. That was the price from a particular dealer in Germany. (Possibly the manufacturer). It is sold in UK at around £450.00.
 

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Interesting to see the different tuning options. Wonder if there's a way to test them temporarily? Would be cool to feel the difference without committing.
 

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I think the DTUK comes with a two week 'No quibble' return. I was certainly impressed with the Pedal Box throttle control. If you haven't got one. Try that first as it does not interfere in any way with the ECU.
 
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I purchased a TDI kit. Hooked it up and ended up getting a check engine light. Seems to be a wiring issue. I keep getting a low voltage error on the A1 turbo sensor. Reached out to them and waiting for a response. Disconnect it and cleared the codes so far-


ON another note- Does anyone know how to program tire sensors? I replaced my wheels and tires but they never flashed them so i have low tire light all the time.
 
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I purchased a TDI kit. Hooked it up and ended up getting a check engine light. Seems to be a wiring issue. I keep getting a low voltage error on the A1 turbo sensor. Reached out to them and waiting for a response. Disconnect it and cleared the codes so far-


ON another note- Does anyone know how to program tire sensors? I replaced my wheels and tires but they never flashed them so i have low tire light all the time.
I too had the light, however I used the Ancel to cancel it and I never had a second light pop on.. I'm using the power chip, and Pedel chip 3 weeks now and it is so much more responsive.
 
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