Big Brake kit.

[Zimm]

I really don't know why this product would be needed, but, I like in the comments when someone brings up the lack of Ebrake, and the Poster says hills are few around him and it would be different in a place like San Francisco.

Yea, there's much to be said about that statement, but I get a kick out of someones logic, where it doesn't register in their brain, that when there's a failure on a hill, it's only one hill, and that hill doesn't not know if there are other hills around it or not.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dimkqaewlys

 

[Stu_Barnes]

Alcon has announced the launch of a new brake upgrade kit for the INEOS Grenadier. The announcement coincides with the DVD exhibition taking place at Millbrook Proving Ground 18-19 September 2024.
Launched by INEOS in October 2022, the Grenadier has been positively received in Europe and North America, especially by armourers and coachbuilders for modified vehicles. With this new kit, Alcon offers a ready-made solution for the necessary brake upgrade needed for heavier armoured modifications and high-performance models. This upgrade ensures the braking system can handle the extra weight, improving both performance and safety.

Alcon’s new Grenadier kit is fully compatible with the standard vehicle brake actuation and control systems and has been designed to fit standard INEOS wheels. The caliper is part of Alcon’s robust opposed piston CIR54 family. The large 350mm two-piece ventilated disc helps increase the available brake torque as well as its thermal capacity.
Fitting the brake upgrade kit will increase available brake torque, reduce brake fade and fluid vaporisation, extend brake service intervals and reduce through life costs.

The kit will be available with acid zinc nickel plating for a discrete upgrade as well as painted versions.
Alcon brake kits are also available for a wide range of armoured and specialist SUV’s, including, but not exclusively: Ford’s F550, F350 and F150-based Raptor and Ranger platforms; Chevrolet’s Suburban and Suburban HD; GM’s GMT K2-based platforms Tahoe and Escalade; Toyota’s LC300, LC200, LC78-79 and Hilux; Mercedes’ Sprinter; and Volkswagen’s Amarok and Crafter.

Alcon has over 25 years of experience in engineering brakes and clutches for specialist vehicles; from F1, World Rally and prestige performance cars to 30T-plus military armoured vehicles. This places them at the forefront of developing and delivering high-performance braking solutions for sectors where only the absolute best can be accepted. Alcon’s off-the-shelf brake kits allow both OEM’s and vehicle modification companies to overcome the challenges posed by up-armouring vehicles for both defence, security and specialist purposes. The kits are compatible with stock OEM actuation, so are easy to fit but have been fully “ruggedised” to ensure extreme levels robustness and performance balanced with the requirement to keep weight to a minimum.

Mike Jones, Chief Engineer at Alcon said: “We’re very pleased to announce the launch of this new brake upgrade kit today, it is a welcome addition for armourers and customers wanting to upgrade their Grenadier”. He added: “We have worked extremely hard to develop off-the-shelf solutions to meet the requirements of OEMs and vehicle modification companies and this new Grenadier kit adds to that story. The continuing strength of our world-wide sales confirms that Alcon brake kits meet the necessarily demanding requirements of the defence and security armoured vehicle sector as well as other specialist users”.


And here's another one, the good new is that they have a pretty considerable dealer network.

 

[Zimm]

Nice. I’m not sure they are needed though.

 

[Phred]

It’s funny, I sometimes feel the grenadier brakes are a little underpowered for the weight of the vehicle. I find myself pressing the brake pedal and then having to press firmer and firmer to get the proper braking deceleration. I chalked it up to getting used to the vehicle but find myself thinking they’re a little underpowered as time goes on.

Anyone else?

 

[Shopkeep]

It’s funny, I sometimes feel the grenadier brakes are a little underpowered for the weight of the vehicle. I find myself pressing the brake pedal and then having to press firmer and firmer to get the proper braking deceleration. I chalked it up to getting used to the vehicle but find myself thinking they’re a little underpowered as time goes on.

Anyone else?

I find the same, not sure the discs or calipers need upgrading it’s more the pedal feel is way too spongy and there is poor feedback. It’s stops fine when I really need it to but it initially feels like it won’t.

 

[Tom109]

No issues with the Gren brakes. I think they’re spot on.

 

[angstorms]

Powerbrake now how kit for the Ineos Grenadier for the Front Brakes https://mainlineoverland.com/produc...it-for-ineos-grenadier?variant=46199483400436

 

[Zimm]

I'd put them on with some 5 spoke alloys, so people could see them and be impressed I spent the money. Otherwise, they have little use.

 

[anand]

Powerbrake now how kit for the Ineos Grenadier for the Front Brakes https://mainlineoverland.com/produc...it-for-ineos-grenadier?variant=46199483400436

I have this kit on order (not through MLO, though), and really looking forward to it as we had a PowerBrake BBK on my GF's Tacoma previously (one of the best upgrades done to that thing). The Grenadier kit comes with their 2 piece rotors (many of their other kits are 1 pc rotors), so it should be even better for heat dissipation.

The last I heard was the kit is currently in the pre-order phase through US dealers; if I get an actual ETA from Powerbrake I'll let you know

Edit: Below is a photo of what to expect of the PB kit behind 17" wheels... This is on our (now sold) Tacoma, but gives a good idea of the caliper visibility nonetheless

 

[Zimm]

Ok, so 6 spoke will suffice. 5 spoke 6 lug wheels always gives me the heebiegeebies anyway.