Are you female, male, other — curious about the mix here

[IGL]

Personally, I don't understand why it's important to know someone's gender or to know the percentage of female, male and others on this forum. In my opinion, we all share a passion for the Grenadier, so I don't care about the gender of forum members.

 

[DenisM]

there's far too many people Intosex here in the UK, main reason we have a housing shortage.

That could be a misconception.....

 

[trobex]

there's far too many people Intosex here in the UK, main reason we have a housing shortage.

I suspect a lot of people are InToSex being in such close proximity?

 

[ANNML]

Personally, I don't understand why it's important to know someone's gender or to know the percentage of female, male and others on this forum. In my opinion, we all share a passion for the Grenadier, so I don't care about the gender of forum members.

Maybe I should have written something in my first post so as not to offend. This arose from a different thread — there is an older thread where someone expressed concerns over sexist comments about women. That was of interest to me bc I AM a woman but haven’t experienced sexism here, so I commented. Others joined the conversation and eventually it led to a lighthearted curiosity about just how few women are actually on the forum. So I posted this poll. But how odd I feel I have to explain/defend this…?

I, and I expect others, also don’t really “care” about gender in terms of judging it in some negative way. But is there something actually wrong about posting this…? Agree, we all share a passion about Grenadiers but as is common to humans, other subjects pop up and a person might then use the General chat for its intended purpose.

I mean geesh, if someone posts a poll about “What’s Your Favorite Beer?” — are you going to go in and say “I don’t see why it’s important to know someone’s favorite beer. We all share a passion for Grenadiers so I don’t care about the favorite beer of forum members”….? Um okay. Pardon moi sir, but if you feel that passionate about not caring then don’t waste your time posting about the not caring-ness and just kindly move along. Like the Beatles said, let it be.

 

[Dual Grenny Guy]

Maybe I should have written something in my first post so as not to offend. This arose from a different thread — there is an older thread where someone expressed concerns over sexist comments about women. That was of interest to me bc I AM a woman but haven’t experienced sexism here, so I commented. Others joined the conversation and eventually it led to a lighthearted curiosity about just how few women are actually on the forum. So I posted this poll. But how odd I feel I have to explain/defend this…?

I, and I expect others, also don’t really “care” about gender in terms of judging it in some negative way. But is there something actually wrong about posting this…? Agree, we all share a passion about Grenadiers but as is common to humans, other subjects pop up and a person might then use the General chat for its intended purpose.

I mean geesh, if someone posts a poll about “What’s Your Favorite Beer?” — are you going to go in and say “I don’t see why it’s important to know someone’s favorite beer. We all share a passion for Grenadiers so I don’t care about the favorite beer of forum members”….? Um okay. Pardon moi sir, but if you feel that passionate about not caring then don’t waste your time posting about the not caring-ness and just kindly move along. Like the Beatles said, let it be.

 

[IGL]

Maybe I should have written something in my first post so as not to offend. This arose from a different thread — there is an older thread where someone expressed concerns over sexist comments about women. That was of interest to me bc I AM a woman but haven’t experienced sexism here, so I commented. Others joined the conversation and eventually it led to a lighthearted curiosity about just how few women are actually on the forum. So I posted this poll. But how odd I feel I have to explain/defend this…?

I, and I expect others, also don’t really “care” about gender in terms of judging it in some negative way. But is there something actually wrong about posting this…? Agree, we all share a passion about Grenadiers but as is common to humans, other subjects pop up and a person might then use the General chat for its intended purpose.

I mean geesh, if someone posts a poll about “What’s Your Favorite Beer?” — are you going to go in and say “I don’t see why it’s important to know someone’s favorite beer. We all share a passion for Grenadiers so I don’t care about the favorite beer of forum members”….? Um okay. Pardon moi sir, but if you feel that passionate about not caring then don’t waste your time posting about the not caring-ness and just kindly move along. Like the Beatles said, let it be.

Maybe it's because I'm not a native English speaker, but did I attack you personally at any point in my post (As you unfortunately do in your reply, as I understand it)?

I wrote that it was my opinion, nothing more, nothing less, and I wasn't complaining that someone started this thread or that no one should care.

It is up to me how I “waste” my time and I will kindly move along to express and defend my personal opinion.

Just found this in your frou-frou thread, post #26, quote: "And I don’t care — I can only be me and I’m not going to edit myself... "

 

[Trialmaster]

Yet more WOKE madness. There are TWO SEXES and nothing else, as for GENDERS, there are TWO!

Of course this as pigeon holes me and for that I don't apologise.

 

[Dual Grenny Guy]

I honestly think some people are way over thinking this thread. The ones that have an issue with it, why read and post on it?

I do not know “ANNML” at all and this thread is the first time I have even read her posts or communicated with her. Given that, even I can tell she is super laid back and likes to joke around. Not sure why some of the negativity? Heck she is a Grenadier owner, quotes/references Star Wars, Star Trek & the Beatles. What else do you need to know, she could be the female me??!! That may not be a good thing though.

She hit the nail on the head stating there are MANY threads not related to the Grenadier on this forum, so why can’t she ask about the gender ratio of owners? If I don’t like a thread, I don’t read or post in it. Easy peasy. I was curious myself about the ratio and was surprised to find at least one female so far…..

 

[Trialmaster]

I honestly think some people are way over thinking this thread. The ones that have an issue with it, why read and post on it?

I do not know “ANNML” at all and this thread is the first time I have even read her posts or communicated with her. Given that, even I can tell she is super laid back and likes to joke around. Not sure why some of the negativity? Heck she is a Grenadier owner, quotes/references Star Wars, Star Trek & the Beatles. What else do you need to know, she could be the female me??!! That may not be a good thing though.

She hit the nail on the head stating there are MANY threads not related to the Grenadier on this forum, so why can’t she ask about the gender ratio of owners? If I don’t like a thread, I don’t read or post in it. Easy peasy. I was curious myself about the ratio and was surprised to find at least one female so far…..

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You are probably right and I honestly don't need lecturing.

 

[Dual Grenny Guy]

Yet more WOKE madness. There are TWO SEXES and nothing else, as for GENDERS, there are TWO!

Of course this as pigeon holes me and for that I don't apologise.

Not sure why the downvote? I don’t disagree with your statement above at all. I am in the same camp and agree 100% of only 2 genders and the meme with Patrick was a joke. Well there are really hermaphrodites in the world so that makes the conversation a little tricky and I feel bad for them born with both. However, I was simply saying why people have an issue with someone starting a thread asking their gender to get a feel for how many women vs men own a Grenadier. I think she threw in the “other” option to not offend anyone. Just wanted to clarify this on my end. Dave Chappelle is my favorite comedian and me and him have the same philosophy and issues with certain groups and if you understand that then you understand me.

 

[Jean Mercier]

I love this poll, I love numbers and statistics.

Is it useful? Probably not
Well, the only outcome, if statistics prove me right that we have less than 1% women on the forum, is that we can be as rude and unfriendly as we wish with women, no woman will notice.
I hope, NOW, that everybody understands that this is a joke (@ANNML will understand), English isn't my native language, and humor is very different between countries and cultures, WOKE being a culture

In the meantime I try to boost women's vote, because as long as the poll indicates more than 1% women I will be careful in my wording

Please, participate at the poll:
@Anne
@Annie R
@annierobinson01

 

[Dual Grenny Guy]

I love this poll, I love numbers and statistics.

Is it useful? Probably not
Well, the only outcome, if statistics prove me right that we have less than 1% women on the forum, is that we can be as rude and unfriendly as we wish with women, no woman will notice.
I hope, NOW, that everybody understands that this is a joke (@ANNML will understand), English isn't my native language, and humor is very different between countries and cultures, WOKE being a culture

In the meantime I try to boost women's vote, because as long as the poll indicates more than 1% women I will be careful in my wording

Please, participate at the poll:
@Anne
@Annie R
@annierobinson01

Well said and to me it’s hilarious we have more “others” than “females”, as of now and I won’t rule out some jokesters taking part in this total.

Are you sure the members you called out to vote are female? Maybe it’s a play on their name or wive’s name or who knows why someone picks their username. Mine is easy to figure out. Anyway, I thought for sure we would have around 5-6 female owners out there, but maybe they see the reception “ANNML” has received and opt not to participate.

 

[Jean Mercier]

Are you sure the members you called out to vote are female?

No, not at all, but if they vote it will make the poll more relevant, be it any gender.

And, I agree with the "other category", everybody is free to think and do with his body and feelings what he wants to do within the limits of the law and respect of other human beings.

 

[Coullabus]

Humour is good. Gender conversations are interesting but can be convolute. People are what really matters. Good manners and acceptance of diversity are essential. There is zero need to be unkind or deprecating about another’s outlook or belief system.

QED.

 

[Kujo]

And Bob’s Your Uncle !!

 

[Michael_in_Baja]

What's a gender? I identify only as superior

I think she meant sex.

 

[ANNML]

I wrote that it was my opinion, nothing more, nothing less, and I wasn't complaining that someone started this thread or that no one should care.

All I can see is that you only made the effort to point out that this is a forum about Grenadiers and that you didn’t care about the thread’s subject. So unless you post that you don’t care about a subject in a bunch of other threads that you don’t care about, then..see the confusion?

Restating what I said before, if there was a thread about favorite beers but maybe you aren’t interested in knowing who likes what beer — would you also make the effort to post in that thread stating “we all share a passion for the Grenadier, so I don't care about forum members’ beer preferences” — ?

I’m truly sorry if this thread somehow triggered you, I meant no offense whatsoever. I didn’t understand the meaning behind your post and my asking you about it was in no way meant as an attack.

Yet more WOKE madness. There are TWO SEXES and nothing else, as for GENDERS, there are TWO!

Of course this as pigeon holes me and for that I don't apologise.

I accept if you think there is 1 gender, 2 genders, or 50.

Dave Chappelle is my favorite comedian and me and him have the same philosophy and issues with certain groups and if you understand that then you understand me.

WHAT? Dave Chappelle?! Then yes, I AM INDEED THE FEMALE YOU!! He is brilliant.

I love this poll, I love numbers and statistics.

Me too! It was the exchange between you and me on the sexism thread that made me curious about the prevalence of males/females here. It was borne out of curiosity alone. I can’t help it, I’m curious about everything!

I feel rather bad about creating a bit of a controversy and I do apologize for any unintended offense!

 

[parb]

I think she meant sex.

I got it. I was having a bit of fun with it...

 

[ANNML]

I think she meant sex.

It’s funny you said this bc when I was writing this thread I was thinking — should I put gender? Should I put sex? Am I supposed to do both? Should I google it? Is it wrong to ask this? Will people think I’m asking this for some reason other than curiosity?

And the answer to every question is I don’t know lol. These days I don’t know what to say sometimes when it comes to stuff like this bc I worry that what I knew was acceptable yesterday is no longer relevant.

 

[parb]

I'm often thinking the same way. Thread lightly has become my motto when it comes to choosing words...