Eibach Pro-Lift Kit ~ +30mm coil springs

anand · Feb 9, 2024

Tom109 said:
Exactly.

Now I can stratch the BS Eibach leveling lift kit off my list. Who comes up with these things?!

Sadly, it is what the vast majority of US buyers would go for, because it suits their needs

255/85 · Feb 9, 2024

Yeah boyee!

Tom109 · Feb 9, 2024

ADVAW8S said:
@Logsplitter @Tom109 I'll start by saying, first the comment is directed towards US customers. I had the orginal springs on order through a friend. I believe the orginal eibach version will still be available, if your in the USA you might have to get it imported. Second, I believe the different springs are to address the heavier vehicle in the US and ability to run larger tires. With the addition of the safety requirements in front end, a different spring might be needed. You will notice the addition in inches to front with the back being the same. Yes it does level the front out but also makes it easier to run larger tires.

@ADVAW8S - I get it, I just don't understand it.

Suspension is complex and not a simple issue of leveling your truck for 'gram shots. There is science behind spring length, spring rate, and the reason for higher ride height below the empty rear load bay. It will be interesting if they publish the number of coils, spring lengths, and spring rates for the new Gram springs.

stickshifter · Feb 9, 2024

Tom109 said:
@ADVAW8S - I get it, I just don't understand it.

Suspension is complex and not a simple issue of leveling your truck for 'gram shots. There is science behind spring length, spring rate, and the reason for higher ride height below the empty rear load bay. It will be interesting if they publish the number of coils, spring lengths, and spring rates for the new Gram springs.

First, kudos to Eibach for working on this project!

It would be great to get the info @Tom109 mentions, and - in addition - I'd like to know (1) what the lift does to the caster angle, and (2) see some photos (or measurements) of how the lift affects the angle of the front control arms. Will Eibach offer adjustable control arms? If they do not do that kind of fabrication, will they partner with someone who does? In a rush to get out a taller lift (which is relatively easy to produce), it would be a shame if the details of dialing in the on-road handling were left to some other company. This could put early adopters of the lift in a sub-optimal situation with regard to how the vehicle handles, and they would be left waiting for someone to develop a solution.

This is beating a dead horse, but longer control arms from the factory would have no negative consequences for a stock Grenadier, and would have the big upside of facilitating a 3-inch lift to the front of the vehicle and the addition of taller tires. It cannot come as a surprise to Ineos that many owners (especially Americans?) would be interested in up-sizing the tires.

255/85 · Feb 9, 2024

It's not he down travel that is hard to engineer in with longer arms - it's the uptravel. The frame can easily get in the way unless the wheel well upsweep is extended toward the middle of the channel which leaves you with a short center "straight" section. That results in less interior space with body-on-frame vehicles. No, you don't really want to outboard everything as that tends to lead to frame cracking.

There will be companies who will supply the retrofit setups.

Mountain4x4 · Feb 9, 2024

Leveling kit is NOT what we need. A solid 2.5" front and rear. No reason to take the rake out, it will come down when overlanding in its right environment. We need to fit larger tires. If they can do 2.5" front, that can do a rear set for that.

stickshifter · Feb 9, 2024

Mountain4x4 said:
Leveling kit is NOT what we need. A solid 2.5" front and rear. No reason to take the rake out, it will come down when overlanding in its right environment. We need to fit larger tires. If they can do 2.5" front, that can do a rear set for that.

Yeah, the rear should be easier to engineer than the front (unless I'm missing something).

nuclearbeef · Feb 10, 2024

Mountain4x4 said:
Leveling kit is NOT what we need. A solid 2.5" front and rear. No reason to take the rake out, it will come down when overlanding in its right environment. We need to fit larger tires. If they can do 2.5" front, that can do a rear set for that.

I disagree. I am not a fan of the stink-bug stance. I like level.
With my Land Cruiser, I raised the front and put helper air bags in the rear. Best of both worlds.

Airbag man has a kit listed for INEOS.

Air bag suspension for INEOS GRENADIER SUV 23-24

airbagman.com.au

Tom109 · Feb 11, 2024

Here is a post from @globalgregors. He comments the rear may be slightly down when fully loaded with diesel & water.

Ragman · Feb 11, 2024

My biggest fear with lifting the INEOS is not the lift, some smart company will sort that out. Instead I wonder about strain on the driveline, gearing, etc. which are still unknowns. Add this to the likely negative impact on fuel mileage and range which are important considerations for longer trips. Assuming of course you fit larger tires

Hoping to get some real world input from folks that have gone down this path.

JMP · Feb 12, 2024

Good morning,
A Frenchman presents his extension <<< here >>>:

Good evening everyone,
Some photos of the preparation of my Grenadier.
Change of springs/shock absorbers/rims/tyres.
The behavior of the Grenadier is impeccable now, much better than originally (behavior too soft and bobbing and two original shock absorbers which were already leaking when I returned from Morocco, it is raised +8/10 with MUD tires).
Advice and preparation FUTURA 4X4 in Saint Rémy de Provence, whom I thank for their advice and for the preparation + coffee and croissants in the morning every day when I arrive at the garage

He probably got his measurements wrong, it can't be 8 or 10 cm: the springs are +3; its tires are theoretically + 1.4 cm.
- Eibach + 3 springs
- Proflex shock absorbers (the story does not say how much they were extended)
- Braid rims (maybe Win Race? Offset unknown)
- Geolandar M/T 285/70R17 tires

For information, this person made this transformation after returning from Morocco where he said he had significantly worn out the original shock absorbers, to the point where the shock absorbers were leaking. If you're interested, his trip is shown in (beautiful) images on YouTube.

Steve.B · Feb 13, 2024

JMP said:
Good morning,
A Frenchman presents his extension <<< here >>>:

He probably got his measurements wrong, it can't be 8 or 10 cm: the springs are +3; its tires are theoretically + 1.4 cm.
- Eibach + 3 springs
- Proflex shock absorbers (the story does not say how much they were extended)
- Braid rims (maybe Win Race? Offset unknown)
- Geolandar M/T 285/70R17 tires

For information, this person made this transformation after returning from Morocco where he said he had significantly worn out the original shock absorbers, to the point where the shock absorbers were leaking. If you're interested, his trip is shown in (beautiful) images on YouTube.

Wow that is the best video, even though I only speak English it was incredibly interesting, and a great way to spend 42 minutes.
I can see why the Grenadier needed new shock absorbers after watching that.

DaBull · Feb 13, 2024

JMP said:
Good morning,
A Frenchman presents his extension <<< here >>>:

He probably got his measurements wrong, it can't be 8 or 10 cm: the springs are +3; its tires are theoretically + 1.4 cm.
- Eibach + 3 springs
- Proflex shock absorbers (the story does not say how much they were extended)
- Braid rims (maybe Win Race? Offset unknown)
- Geolandar M/T 285/70R17 tires

For information, this person made this transformation after returning from Morocco where he said he had significantly worn out the original shock absorbers, to the point where the shock absorbers were leaking. If you're interested, his trip is shown in (beautiful) images on YouTube.

That was the best and most beautiful video of over landing in a Grenadier I have seen to date. Beautifully filmed, great music and skillful driving. Even though I did not know one word they were narrating, it was crystal clear what it was all about. It's an aspirational video's like this that is the reason I purchased a Grenadier and this video gives me the confidence to know the Grenadier is extremely capable and built for purpose. Here's the link again. Click and enjoy. DaBull

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu9ZmN7HwDQ

Marlin Pete · May 8, 2024

K1LL3M said:
Hey Krabby,

Side on pics and an internal wheel arch pic as well for anyone thats interested

It would be nice to see a pic, once fully flexed.

ADVAW8S · May 8, 2024

Due to me getting all excited and ordering pro lift kit and then deciding I want the QM, I will be selling my lift. I will be listing it in the classifieds. The price is 550 plus shipping. Just DM me if interested.

Cheshire cat · May 8, 2024

I can see a lift becoming the essential extra. Would be sending you a PM but living in UK, it looks like I will be paying full price from BUZZ.

K1LL3M · May 16, 2024

Marlin Pete said:
It would be nice to see a pic, once fully flexed.

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Mountain4x4 · Jun 12, 2024

Guess I will order what they have, but man I wish we could get 2.5" rear. I called, and only shocks are in R&D from them now. Who knows who else is working on kits. Lots of companies in R&D but not sure on lifts.

anand · Jun 12, 2024

Mountain4x4 said:
Guess I will order what they have, but man I wish we could get 2.5" rear. I called, and only shocks are in R&D from them now. Who knows who else is working on kits. Lots of companies in R&D but not sure on lifts.

If you really want to over lift the rear just order Eibach's 500 or 1000lb added weight rear coils

Mountain4x4 · Jun 15, 2024

anand said:
If you really want to over lift the rear just order Eibach's 500 or 1000lb added weight rear coils

The only options online are 2.5" front 1.2" rear or 1.7" front 1.2" rear....

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