Who is experiencing software or electrical gremlins?

Krabby · Dec 5, 2023

Patrick Bol said:
I did extensive 1500km testing in deep sand dunes and extreme conditions most of us rarely experience and kept detailed log of alarms and issues, I want to deliver to the right Ineos Technical department. If you know someone let me know.

This is the place to do that. IA staff have eyes all around

jamesfielding · Dec 6, 2023

rovie said:
That's my assumption, too.

Just a quick note: thinking about this, I wonder if once it’s synchronised at the dealer before collection then it uses barometric pressure which is why it varies daily?

pete54 · Dec 6, 2023

jamesfielding said:
Me again…not sure whether to post here or the Centre Compass Thread - the height indicator.
I’ve just driven through Worcester (UK) town centre - possibly THE most inland city in England and my height dropped to -33ft at its peak…
I’ve assumed it’s feet above/below sea level?

Edinburgh is 4ft below sea level. Luckily I have the raised air intake.

klarie · Dec 6, 2023

Traveling Marvin said:
They are only following EU law, requiring these assistants in each new car from 2024. One of the reasons I took the risk and ordered early. I do however hope that INEOS is allowed to disable all these when entering OffRoad Modo. Just like the seatbelt warning.

Exactly - and on the new ones have the engine auto start stop "OFF" button removed because this counts in to total emissions and so to vehicle emissions tax.

rovie · Dec 6, 2023

jamesfielding said:
Just a quick note: thinking about this, I wonder if once it’s synchronised at the dealer before collection then it uses barometric pressure which is why it varies daily?

Hmm, I don't know that either.

jamesfielding · Dec 6, 2023

rovie said:
Hmm, I don't know that either.

A bit like how before planes land, the pilots adjust their altimeters to their destination air fields to make sure the altitude level is accurate.

bakepl · Dec 6, 2023

Low range alarm sound.... was hauling up hill in low range, took it out of low range, all dash lights off, drives normally however over 40klm constant audible alarm from centre screen, nothing else other than tpms that's been in for ages. Have disengaged low-high few times, switched on off, still alarm over 40klm. Any ideas or at least how to turn alarm off?

Mauro · Dec 7, 2023

Today, after a month and ten days in the workshop, I picked up the Grenadier with 1946 software and transfer case replaced.
In general, after a quick test, the 'off-road' compartment seems to work well. Differentials, gearbox, transfer case, wade mode, off road mode, uphill and downhill assistant: all OK.
A few signs of problems (ESC not avalable, 0% battery,) appeared and disappeared after five minutes of standstill. Now the car runs straight
However, I have a few minor problems that are a bit annoying
The blue flashing maintenance message appears at the bottom of the screen where ODO and autonomy is. The dealer told me it's a software bug, but I don't really believe it. Do you know if there is a way to get rid of it?
I have a noise coming from behind when the cooling/heating fan is off. If I turn it on even at idle, the noise disappears. Has anyone experienced a similar problem?
I will see how it goes over the next few days. Fingers crossed
Many thanks and greetings to all

Pat · Dec 8, 2023

Mauro said:
Today, after a month and ten days in the workshop, I picked up the Grenadier with 1946 software and transfer case replaced.
In general, after a quick test, the 'off-road' compartment seems to work well. Differentials, gearbox, transfer case, wade mode, off road mode, uphill and downhill assistant: all OK.
A few signs of problems (ESC not avalable, 0% battery,) appeared and disappeared after five minutes of standstill. Now the car runs straight
However, I have a few minor problems that are a bit annoying
The blue flashing maintenance message appears at the bottom of the screen where ODO and autonomy is. The dealer told me it's a software bug, but I don't really believe it. Do you know if there is a way to get rid of it?
I have a noise coming from behind when the cooling/heating fan is off. If I turn it on even at idle, the noise disappears. Has anyone experienced a similar problem?
I will see how it goes over the next few days. Fingers crossed
Many thanks and greetings to all

Ciao Mauro, what about the vibrations you were (I think all of us;-) reporting? You are at Autotorino VR, right? Did they tell you how many SW upgrades they have performed? They just called me yesterday for an appointment (new SW release, new transfer case etc) on 8 January. At this stage after 10k km I will also go for an oil change.

Mauro · Dec 8, 2023

Ciao Pat. I dont have any vibration, if you refer to engine or gearbox. But my car is petrol. I just have a noise (it seems from the rear) when the fan of air-con is setting off.
And i have that very boring and annoying blue flashing message of maintenance in 15.000 km!
The dealer said they have done a lot of SW upgrades.

Tazzieman · Dec 16, 2023

My front proximity sensor is too bloody sensitive. Sometimes goes off for no reason (no car in front , just stopped at the line).
I can't recall if anyone found a way to turn this off without having to turn it off each time you start the car?
Or do I have to put it in park at every stoplight?

trobex · Dec 16, 2023

Tazzieman said:
My front proximity sensor is too bloody sensitive. Sometimes goes off for no reason (no car in front , just stopped at the line).
I can't recall if anyone found a way to turn this off without having to turn it off each time you start the car?
Or do I have to put it in park at every stoplight?

Same Taz. On my fault list my right hand side picks up other cars in the round about at 30 feet WTF. I never drive with sensors on anyway but when you do forget and bub is woken because of it - rage starts!!

Hannes01 · Dec 16, 2023

I had a workshop appointment on Friday to change the transfer case gearshift. The error message "emergency call error" disappeared just in time the day before.

Znarfgh · Dec 16, 2023

Recently had the software upgrade and not had a single error message since.

trobex · Dec 16, 2023

Znarfgh said:
Recently had the software upgrade and not had a single error message since.

Is this the 1946 update?

Lollo050968 · Dec 16, 2023

Znarfgh said:
Recently had the software upgrade and not had a single error message since.

Me too!

jkloy · Dec 20, 2023

I had my software update about two months ago and first it looked all fine, but now since a week or so I experienced a new error message, saying: ESC-OFF - downhill/uphill assistent not available. It seems to appear randomly while driving.
And another issue, which my dealer could not explain is the following: When I fill up the car to 100%, my display shows the remaining distance in km just as >570 km instead of the correct number as you can see in the picture. My question: Has anyone same experience with the display? What is shown there, when you when your gasoline tank is fully filled up? I would appreciate, if you could show me photos, because my dealer argues that this could be a restriction on the display which possibly cannot show more than 570. I think, this is a silly explanation....why should any software engineer restrict the display just to that number?

Eric · Dec 20, 2023

jkloy said:
And another issue, which my dealer could not explain is the following: When I fill up the car to 100%, my display shows the remaining distance in km just as >570 km instead of the correct number as you can see in the picture. My question: Has anyone same experience with the display? What is shown there, when you when your gasoline tank is fully filled up? I would appreciate, if you could show me photos, because my dealer argues that this could be a restriction on the display which possibly cannot show more than 570. I think, this is a silly explanation....why should any software engineer restrict the display just to that number?

I agree completely with the dealer. If I fill my tank it shows the remaining distance as >350 miles. It stay like this until the range drops below 350 mile range then decreases with driven miles.
I suspect the reason is the shape of the tank makes accurate calibration above a certain capacity difficult as it won't be a linear progression

Pat · Dec 20, 2023

jkloy said:
I had my software update about two months ago and first it looked all fine, but now since a week or so I experienced a new error message, saying: ESC-OFF - downhill/uphill assistent not available. It seems to appear randomly while driving.
And another issue, which my dealer could not explain is the following: When I fill up the car to 100%, my display shows the remaining distance in km just as >570 km instead of the correct number as you can see in the picture. My question: Has anyone same experience with the display? What is shown there, when you when your gasoline tank is fully filled up? I would appreciate, if you could show me photos, because my dealer argues that this could be a restriction on the display which possibly cannot show more than 570. I think, this is a silly explanation....why should any software engineer restrict the display just to that number?

Hi Jkloy, greetings from Italy. I am still running the old SW version. After filling up the tank my autonomy would show >621km (or similar) - however my autonomy should be between 750 and 850km according to my usual Diesel consumption. I think the logical limitation should be the highest three digit number (999) but then they were applying the conversion from miles to km. Not sure about - just trying to understand the logic or misleading logic.
I still have my random error messages (with effectively no error) - just a matter of not flashing the memory, Let's see after my SW upgrade due on 9th January.

jkloy · Dec 20, 2023

Pat said:
Hi Jkloy, greetings from Italy. I am still running the old SW version. After filling up the tank my autonomy would show >621km (or similar) - however my autonomy should be between 750 and 850km according to my usual Diesel consumption. I think the logical limitation should be the highest three digit number (999) but then they were applying the conversion from miles to km. Not sure about - just trying to understand the logic or misleading logic.
I still have my random error messages (with effectively no error) - just a matter of not flashing the memory, Let's see after my SW upgrade due on 9th January.

thank you for your information, Pat. I just try to collect the different display experiences of grenadier owners and maybe it helps then to reveal the logic behind.

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