ASPW wants a Grenadier

AZGrenadier · Dec 18, 2023

FlyingTexan said:
At my dealer it was at 17.2mpg and 1800 miles

I like that number, even with the GX460 as well.

moosetown · Dec 18, 2023

YellowLab said:
Exactly - we must thank your EU friends for being the early guinea pigs - they have been through a lot! When do you pick your Grenny up?

My 'Shroom Trialmaster is in the states but no word from the dealer yet. The holidays are busy, they can take their time, no problem on my end.

Something I quite like about ASPWs review, which echoes a lot of other reviews, is his praise of its character. I've always known the Grenadier is an emotional decision more than a rational one. In the US, I think a 200, 4Runner, new 250, Gladiator, or Raptor make a lot more sense, if just for part availability. But it's just so cool as a last hurrah to the internal combustion, solid axle 4x4. It's bursting with charisma.

Spjnr · Dec 18, 2023

I think the footrest issue presents itself more when you first get in and drive the Grenadier. Maybe because you naturally compare it to what you're used to. After driving the Gren for hours on end, i feel you soon adapt to it, and find it comfortable.

I had more issue with lumbar support than left leg/knee ache on my long stints behind the wheel. That being said, they're still bloody comfortable seats compared to what I've had before

Tazzieman · Dec 18, 2023

I wonder if some of these reviewers know the steering wheel is adjustable as well.

And I often see people sitting too close to the wheel, like a senior with bad eyesight..
That all been said , those bothered by the footrest can remove the tick padding and/or put a block on the accelerator pedal. Leave the whine in the transfer case.

LeftCoastOverland · Dec 18, 2023

As I look at my driving position in any other vehicle I keep my left knee bent and foot close to the seat anyhow. Helps me stabilize my hand on the 7:00 position of the steering wheel. Must be a hold over from flying whirly birds…

Shopkeep · Dec 18, 2023

Tazzieman said:
I wonder if some of these reviewers know the steering wheel is adjustable as well.

And I often see people sitting too close to the wheel, like a senior with bad eyesight..
That all been said , those bothered by the footrest can remove the tick padding and/or put a block on the accelerator pedal. Leave the whine in the transfer case.

Solmanic · Dec 18, 2023

I was driving this morning and trying to work out just how he was positioning his leg to cause him so much discomfort. His comment that he had to sit twisted to one side baffles me.

Tazzieman · Dec 18, 2023

Solmanic said:
I was driving this morning and trying to work out just how he was positioning his leg to cause him so much discomfort. His comment that he had to sit twisted to one side baffles me.

Maybe one of his sides is full of crap?

nickelnoff · Dec 18, 2023

Any one from WA gonna own up to lending ASPW the Shale Blue Grenny?

NQ94 · Dec 18, 2023

Just need the review from the Australian Auto Innovation Centre, AIC. A review like AIC done on the new LC300 prior to using it for further product development testing and scanning for the aftermarket industry.

grenadierboy · Dec 19, 2023

Almost everyone with a RHD Grenadier knows deep in their heart that the left footrest design is complete rubbish (but many won't admit it).

Most will not be affected by it for a variety of reasons, (age, flexibility, fitness, can't change so it's not really a problem, etc.).

Those that are impacted by it's ludicrous width and height can ameliorate it's impact by adjusting seat height & position and steering wheel position.

The reminder will just put up with it.

The golden question is: if you could flick a switch and change the footrest's height, width and shape - would you ??

Tazzieman · Dec 19, 2023

grenadierboy said:
The golden question is: if you could flick a switch and change the footrest's height, width and shape - would you ??

No. It is a Feature

All iconic vehicles have Features. Plus you can brace when taking roundabouts at high speed.
However if I owned an old RHD 911 , or Lotus , then yes. Those cars are for men with small feet or ladies..

bigleonski · Dec 19, 2023

Solmanic said:
I was driving this morning and trying to work out just how he was positioning his leg to cause him so much discomfort. His comment that he had to sit twisted to one side baffles me.

All part of the process of building a following. Regardless of the real situation he absolutely has to find and call out the controversial to generate this sort of on line banter. Given he loved it (despite previous rants with the same objective) it wouldn’t have done to just leave it at that without generating robust online banter, all aimed at building profile and clicks.

OGrid · Dec 19, 2023

grenadierboy said:
The reminder will just put up with it.

The golden question is: if you could flick a switch and change the footrest's height, width and shape - would you ??

I personally find the footrest quite intolerable. I’ve never encountered such a problem in any vehicle. Yes, I’ve adjusted the seating and steering. I sit high and drive it like it should be. No relief though.

6’ 2”, 88kg. I run 5km every day, including occasional trail running. Gym 2 days on, 1 off. Stretching included.

As was mentioned earlier by someone in this forum. People are all different. I unfortunately am one who finds the foot rest a problem. And for those that do (one of the staff at my dealer’s is in the same boat as me), it’s a non-trivial issue.

edit: I have a theory, that it might impact people more who have a long history of using a manual with a clutch, not automatic. That is me. But that’s a wild theory.

Bushguide · Dec 19, 2023

Tazzieman said:
No. It is a Feature All iconic vehicles have Features. Plus you can brace when taking roundabouts at high speed.
However if I owned an old RHD 911 , or Lotus , then yes. Those cars are for men with small feet or ladies..

Tazzie hope your not on your way up here right now.

Tazzieman · Dec 19, 2023

Bushguide said:
Tazzie hope your not on your way up here right now.

Yes I'm in my boat. It's got a huge bilge pump.

Tazzieman · Dec 19, 2023

OGrid said:
edit: I have a theory, that it might impact people more who have a long history of using a manual with a clutch, not automatic. That is me. But that’s a wild theory.

For the past 13 years I've just driven a brace of old classics with stiff cable operated as well as hydraulic clutches. And 3 cars with no power steering. And 2 autos. Anecdotally, my legs and back are therefore in proper balance

Somehow my lfelong L5/S1 spondylolisthesis and Scheurmanns have kept me painfree. Weird eh?

Solmanic · Dec 19, 2023

grenadierboy said:
Almost everyone with a RHD Grenadier knows deep in their heart that the left footrest design is complete rubbish (but many won't admit it).

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the Grenadier could stab me continuously with a fork and I'd still want it.

grenadierboy said:
Most will not be affected by it for a variety of reasons, (age, flexibility, fitness, can't change so it's not really a problem, etc.).

.And those who are affected by it for a variety of reasons include attitude, general grumpiness, propensity to whore for YouTube clicks etc.

grenadierboy said:
Those that are impacted by it's ludicrous width and height can ameliorate it's impact by adjusting seat height & position and steering wheel position.

Wow, it's like the designers have come up with a genius way for us to adapt the cockpit to our unique body shapes and postures.

grenadierboy said:
The reminder will just put up with it.

The golden question is: if you could flick a switch and change the footrest's height, width and shape - would you ??

Yes, I admit it. I would happily have one with a smaller footrest. But let's be honest, if the Grenadier was perfect then it would be boring. Like a Toyota.

Baron von Teuchter · Dec 19, 2023

grenadierboy said:
Almost everyone with a RHD Grenadier knows deep in their heart that the left footrest design is complete rubbish (but many won't admit it).

Most will not be affected by it for a variety of reasons, (age, flexibility, fitness, can't change so it's not really a problem, etc.).

Those that are impacted by it's ludicrous width and height can ameliorate it's impact by adjusting seat height & position and steering wheel position.

The reminder will just put up with it.

The golden question is: if you could flick a switch and change the footrest's height, width and shape - would you ??

No I wouldn’t change it, it doesn’t bother me in the slightest.

Things I would change are:

Larger wing mirrors and a wide angle strip at the bottom (like on a transit)
Slightly longer loadbed and 1000kg carrying capacity
Rear sunroof
More cabin storage
Rear cupholders
Rear centre armrest
Heated rear seats
Larger glovebox
Option to default start stop to off
Ugly ass shifter

Tazzieman · Dec 19, 2023

Solmanic said:
.And those who are affected by it for a variety of reasons include attitude, general grumpiness, propensity to whore for YouTube clicks etc.

Clicks for free and money for nothing eh?

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