Americas ANY WORD YET? (the NA build date and dealer announcement thread)

Bruce · Dec 14, 2023

Lemon35 said:
I received an INEOS email update to customers this morning. Unfortunately the link was to the same "Dealer Day" announcement/Q&A from September.

I'm hoping that's an error and there is some more communication from the North American branch.

I was all excited, then when it was the same video I was afraid they were shaming me for chatting with the rep yesterday asking for information on any delays (nope just the tow hitches which are being fixed now). Glad it wasn't that and hope there is more information coming.

[ Adam ] · Dec 14, 2023

Lemon35 said:
I received an INEOS email update to customers this morning. Unfortunately the link was to the same "Dealer Day" announcement/Q&A from September.

I'm hoping that's an error and there is some more communication from the North American branch.

Same - would be nice to get an update on the service network.

Krabby · Dec 14, 2023

I got the recycled "What's Next" email too - arrived today 12/14.

PNW_IG · Dec 14, 2023

Krabby said:
I reserved my place Nov. 2022 I think. I was late to the party

I entered my preorder into the system May 31st (it shows Aug. 15)

Thanks Krabby, I preordered April 22 and converted to order June 1, 2022. The website shows Aug. 15 like many others. If the website is accurate, I would love to know why preorders well after mine seem to be ahead of me in production.

I just did a live chat and they said my G was not yet in production. I asked why other preorders placed well after mine appeared to be ahead of me. They said "This can all depend on the configuration and specifications of the vehicle. For eg, if a vehicle has less configurations it will be created sooner as there is less parts that will needed to be added to the vehicle." I ordered a station wagon with no dealer installed options. I asked if there was any way to get accurate information for production and delivery and they said they would do some checking and email me. I hope to hear back soon. I have stayed very positive throughout this experience and I know people have gone through many delays and glitches. I will try to remain positive, but the preorder date should be a major factor, and if it isn't, Ineos should be explaining why. (Instead of resending an email about a video we have already seen.)

Krabby · Dec 14, 2023

PNW_IG said:
Thanks Krabby, I preordered April 22 and converted to order June 1, 2022. The website shows Aug. 15 like many others. If the website is accurate, I would love to know why preorders well after mine seem to be ahead of me in production.

I just did a live chat and they said my G was not yet in production. I asked why other preorders placed well after mine appeared to be ahead of me. They said "This can all depend on the configuration and specifications of the vehicle. For eg, if a vehicle has less configurations it will be created sooner as there is less parts that will needed to be added to the vehicle." I ordered a station wagon with no dealer installed options. I asked if there was any way to get accurate information for production and delivery and they said they would do some checking and email me. I hope to hear back soon. I have stayed very positive throughout this experience and I know people have gone through many delays and glitches. I will try to remain positive, but the preorder date should be a major factor, and if it isn't, Ineos should be explaining why. (Instead of resending an email about a video we have already seen.)

I know @anand was earlier than most folks and he's not been built either. I can't recall his spec, but I think it was Donny with the white roof.

Lord Ripon USA · Dec 14, 2023

I think all of that stuff was really just meant to keep people in line, and the modern rules of manufacturing still apply.
People stayed in line for the most part.

anand · Dec 14, 2023

Krabby said:
I know @anand was earlier than most folks and he's not been built either. I can't recall his spec, but I think it was Donny with the white roof.

Base, Donny with white roof, steelies w/ Bridgestones, spare storage box, safari windows, ladder, raised air intake, black leather, compass, lockers, interior utility rails, tow hitch.

Reservation was Oct. '21, pre order #10547, you can see the delay progression in my signature. No reason given other than it is an unpopular color combo, yet there was one on the first west coast boat...

Mr.Espresso · Dec 14, 2023

anand said:
Base, Donny with white roof, steelies w/ Bridgestones, spare storage box, safari windows, ladder, raised air intake, black leather, compass, lockers, interior utility rails, tow hitch.

Reservation was Oct. '21, pre order #10547, you can see the delay progression in my signature. No reason given other than it is an unpopular color combo, yet there was one on the first west coast boat...

You should have chosen Eldoret Blue, you would have been delivered Q1 2025!!! I don’t think it is a very popular color.

PNW_IG · Dec 14, 2023

Lord Ripon USA said:
I think all of that stuff was really just meant to keep people in line, and the modern rules of manufacturing still apply.
People stayed in line for the most part.

Thanks very much for your input. I have no experience with modern rules of manufacturing, is 6 months typical?

Bruce · Dec 14, 2023

Mr.Espresso said:
You should have chosen Eldoret Blue, you would have been delivered Q1 2025!!! I don’t think it is a very popular color.

I almost chose it. One of those colors where you see it online and think "what were they thinking?" but in person it just grabs you. They're coming over in droves. Pulled this from a FB group yesterday.

Mr.Espresso · Dec 14, 2023

PNW_IG said:
Thanks very much for your input. I have no experience with modern rules of manufacturing, is 6 months typical?

Call Ineos Corporate, they will sort you out. (833) 494-4748

Mr.Espresso · Dec 14, 2023

Bruce said:
I almost chose it. One of those colors where you see it online and think "what were they thinking?" but in person it just grabs you. They're coming over in droves. Pulled this from a FB group yesterday.

Eldoret Blue with a white roof, was my first choice. Than I saw it in person at the Chicago driving event, and it thew me off. I even bought the model car from Ineos in Eldoret Blue! Now Jim owes me a white model car to match what I actually ended up ordering!

PNW_IG · Dec 14, 2023

Mr.Espresso said:
Call Ineos Corporate, they will sort you out. (833) 494-4748

I am going to wait for email response from chat first. Thanks.

Bruce · Dec 14, 2023

Mr.Espresso said:
Eldoret Blue with a white roof, was my first choice. Than I saw it in person at the Chicago driving event, and it thew me off. I even bought the model car from Ineos in Eldoret Blue! Now Jim owes me a white model car to match what I actually ended up ordering!

Took a different route but we ended up in the same place. I thought it was going to be Green, but it's a little "uncanny valley" to me as I have a specific color in my brain that it should have been (Coniston). At the driving event they didn't have a Sela and the SW was closer to my expectations for an adventure vehicle color, but the Eldoret looked so good. I too have a SW TM on the way and the model in Eldoret.

crashnburn · Dec 14, 2023

Mr.Espresso said:
Eldoret Blue with a white roof, was my first choice. Than I saw it in person at the Chicago driving event, and it thew me off. I even bought the model car from Ineos in Eldoret Blue! Now Jim owes me a white model car to match what I actually ended up ordering!

We have the same shot at this event

By the way, based on Knauz's website they have around 18 vehicles (not sure if on dealer site).
Early this morning it was 21 vehicles.

jcurtin · Dec 14, 2023

For the Chicago customers... sounds like vehicles are starting to flow in now. I'm encouraged based on the call w/ dealer this morning. Be prepared to take vehicle w/o accessories though if you want it soon as they seem to be lagging a bit on that front. Overall, I'm optimistic pre Christmas ownership may still happen

Bruce · Dec 14, 2023

crashnburn said:
We have the same shot at this event
By the way, based on Knauz's website they have around 18 vehicles (not sure if on dealer site).
Early this morning it was 21 vehicles.

Your dealer updates their website?

Lord Ripon USA · Dec 14, 2023

PNW_IG said:
Thanks very much for your input. I have no experience with modern rules of manufacturing, is 6 months typical?

There is a thing called “economic order quantity” that plays a role.
It effects every part of the car.
The oddball combos have to get pushed by hand through the system or they’d never get built.
Another is “recapture”.
As in, build as many of the common ones as fast as possible to “recapture” capital costs.
Those things incentivize behaviors the people don’t want.
You can’t help but notice that in the North American market you never see a pick up truck on the lot that isn’t totally loaded.

You can order one that isn’t, but there are no discounts, and so they cost nearly the same. And you still have to wait until they deign to build your profit less base model with carpet delete and manual windows and door locks.

crashnburn · Dec 14, 2023

Bruce said:
Your dealer updates their website?

I hope Ineos follows suit...

Mr.Espresso · Dec 14, 2023

crashnburn said:
We have the same shot at this event
By the way, based on Knauz's website they have around 18 vehicles (not sure if on dealer site).
Early this morning it was 21 vehicles.

I have heard great things about Knauz, looking forward to my turn, sometime in Feb/March!

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