Robert Pepper review coming

Tazzieman · Jul 27, 2023

When you see the tough terrain people test their cars in , you see many situations where mechanical +/- panel damage is quite likely. If you can afford the car AND afford to wear the repair costs , well I say good onya!
I can't , and my wife won't agree to wanton abuse. Of a vehicle.
That said, there are many tough situations where a calm head and the correct setup will allay any fears.
Agree , an excellent touring vehicle with plenty of scope for proper, if not extreme offroad.
If I wanted to play that manly sport I'd buy a Jeep or something.

Jean Mercier · Jul 27, 2023

Fantastic review, and now I understand why my diff locks didn't "disengage" in my garden lane, and only did when I took the 90° turn to drive on the street! They were disengaged, but the IT system didn't know yet!

Fab · Jul 27, 2023

Now that’s a review worth watching, unlike TFL.
I will have a look at slightly bigger tires.

bigleonski · Jul 27, 2023

Davman said:
To me this car is all about touring Australia.
Towing the van to new places and then using the van as a base as I explore the outlying areas of this wide and sparse country, visiting as many of its landscapes as possible.

All of Roberts videos on the Grenadier prove to me that this is the very car for the job.

X 2

But also remote desert / mountain touring with a fridge and a swag in the back, and rock solid reliability.

grenadierboy · Jul 27, 2023

Tazzieman said:
When you see the tough terrain people test their cars in , you see many situations where mechanical +/- panel damage is quite likely. If you can afford the car AND afford to wear the repair costs , well I say good onya!
I can't , and my wife won't agree to wanton abuse. Of a vehicle.
That said, there are many tough situations where a calm head and the correct setup will allay any fears.
Agree , an excellent touring vehicle with plenty of scope for proper, if not extreme offroad.
If I wanted to play that manly sport I'd buy a Jeep or something.

we are one on this.

Happy to see the Grenadier demolish tracks more difficult than what I expect to take her on

Davman · Jul 27, 2023

grenadierboy said:
we are one on this.

Happy to see the Grenadier demolish tracks more difficult than what I expect to take her on

All with the sidesteps too.

Tazzieman · Jul 27, 2023

Prob needs an extended bash plate , but that's an easy mod

bigleonski · Jul 27, 2023

Interesting that RP knocked 20mm odd off the quoted ground clearance by his assumptions.

I wonder how much (if any) other vehicles clearance were adjusted in similar assessments.

Tazzieman · Jul 27, 2023

bigleonski said:
Interesting that RP knocked 20mm odd off the quoted ground clearance by his assumptions.

I wonder how much (if any) other vehicles clearance were adjusted in similar assessments.

I wonder if , even after the front spring change to suit the bullbar/winch config , whether the stated clearance is a bit diminished?
Need a stock SW for comparison.

AnD3rew · Jul 27, 2023

Tazzieman said:
I wonder if , even after the front spring change to suit the bullbar/winch config , whether the stated clearance is a bit diminished?
Need a stock SW for comparison.

Well the diff clearance definitely won’t be. Thats entirely down to wheel and tyre

DCPU · Jul 27, 2023

So summary seems very fair:

Some confusion on the winch:

Tazzieman · Jul 27, 2023

AnD3rew said:
Well the diff clearance definitely won’t be. Thats entirely down to wheel and tyre

Perhaps the tyre pressure was down?

AnD3rew · Jul 27, 2023

Tazzieman said:
Perhaps the tyre pressure was down?

Maybe, and the 17” wheel/tyre combo is marginally smaller than the18” maybe the claimed number are based on that one.

DaveB · Jul 27, 2023

AnD3rew said:
Well the diff clearance definitely won’t be. Thats entirely down to wheel and tyre

He has pointed out in other video's that most manufacturers ignore any components that are unsprung when quoting ground clearance.
Particularly diffs, suspension and brakes.

Tazzieman · Jul 27, 2023

I think it is a bit nitpicky. Anyone wanting to regularly tackle gnarly tracks (those deep pocketed dudes) will get bigger tyres , a lift and maybe a sway bar disconnect.
Stock , it coped pretty well with a track I'd be loathe to tackle with a loaded Gren, esp with a RTT.

DaveB · Jul 27, 2023

Anyone want to take a guess at the ground clearance on one of the most popular 4wds in Australia

Below are some snips from a good article written in a motoring mag by Mr Pepper himself back in 2020

Why 4x4 ground clearance isn't the same for all vehicles | Practical Motoring

Ground clearance is a fundamental measurement for 4x4s, but it's not always what you think and the message from car makers can be confusing.

practicalmotoring.com.au

Tazzieman · Jul 27, 2023

Gather a bunch of the latest suspects.
Just setup a flat road and place ever higher concrete blocks/spacers on it until the last vehicle clears it.
Then you have the bragging rights list sorted!

Davman · Jul 28, 2023

Tazzieman said:
Gather a bunch of the latest suspects.
Just setup a flat road and place ever higher concrete blocks/spacers on it until the last vehicle clears it.
Then you have the bragging rights list sorted!

Now if they did that Test at speed, that would be worth watching on the Tube.

Max · Jul 28, 2023

Tazzieman said:
Perhaps the tyre pressure was down?

I so much wanted to know the tyre pressure because of the difference it can make and then at 27:42 mins on the video there is a screenshot showing tyre temp and Kpa...when converted 278Kpa to pounds is 40lbs...back passenger was slightly lower...imagine with a little less air...providing you have the clearance it would be a hard beast to stop...loving it

bigleonski · Jul 28, 2023

Tazzieman said:
Gather a bunch of the latest suspects.
Just setup a flat road and place ever higher concrete blocks/spacers on it until the last vehicle clears it.
Then you have the bragging rights list sorted!

But as we know, real world "ground clearance" is as much about wheel articulation as how far the diff is off the ground. If your vehicle is dropping further into dips, you're getting closer to mother earth overall.
Being live axle you'd think that generally the IG would benefit in that regard as well.

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