Front bumper / No winch

alvan · Jun 7, 2023

Considering that I have no intention of fitting a winch now or ever, do you think it is possible that sooner or later someone will produce a less protruding and legal aftermarket bumper? Gaining a few cm on the Grenedier's considerable length wouldn't be bad...

Tom D · Jun 7, 2023

I hope so, I really hate the plastic one.

Tom109 · Jun 7, 2023

With time I would expect many options to appear. Although, with nearly identical approach/departure angles, I personally do not see any need (besides, USA get the steel bumper).

AnD3rew · Jun 8, 2023

alvan said:
Considering that I have no intention of fitting a winch now or ever, do you think it is possible that sooner or later someone will produce a less protruding and legal aftermarket bumper? Gaining a few cm on the Grenedier's considerable length wouldn't be bad...

Considering that other markets get the shorter bumper there is no doubt it is physically possible as for legal, who knows

DCPU · Jun 8, 2023

alvan said:
Considering that I have no intention of fitting a winch now or ever, do you think it is possible that sooner or later someone will produce a less protruding and legal aftermarket bumper?

Yes, in a word. Look here for a start, I'm sure there will be more to follow:

https://www.theineosforum.com/threads/aftermarket-winch-bumper-from-letech.12412380/#post-1333186905

You may not want a winch, space can be left blank, or in the past it was the perfect spot for a locked ammo box full of shackles, etc.

DCPU · Jun 24, 2023

But then you miss out on being able to provide the full on al fresco Continental breakfast dining experience:

Eric · Jun 24, 2023

DCPU said:
But then you miss out on being able to provide the full on al fresco Continental breakfast dining experience:
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Land rover mugs!!! You'd have thought they would have grenadier mugs

DCPU · Jun 24, 2023

That's what happens when you have a tight agent and the goodie bag is just fresh air and a handshake.

JonSutton · Jun 24, 2023

Not sure about agent tightness. I suspect they’ll be earning handling fees only and must be failing to achieve on time/on track earnings given the delivery delays. I cannot work out how an agent can make Grenadier pay with the cost to establish a showroom, low vehicle volumes and service returns vs costs for training, etc. Might just work for an established BMW site. For sure they’ll want to keep owners onside if they see long term future in the brand but at what cost?
Most UK agents must be feeling the pinch, especially as the UK market isn’t exactly humming along.
Hats off to HJ in Chester UK for that investment - wonder if it’ll be a twin brand site?

I also factor in that my contract is with Ineos Automotive and not my agent, who is a facilitator (and maybe a fall guy for the OEM when things get tricky).

DCPU · Jun 25, 2023

JonSutton said:
Not sure about agent tightness. I suspect they’ll be earning handling fees only and must be failing to achieve on time/on track earnings given the delivery delays. I cannot work out how an agent can make Grenadier pay with the cost to establish a showroom, low vehicle volumes and service returns vs costs for training, etc.

Seems the business case has people interested:

Door ‘closed’ to new dealers at Ineos Automotive as firm begins roll-out of Grenadier

Sales and marketing boss Gary Pearson speaks exclusively to Car Dealer about brand’s plans https://cardealermagazine.co.uk/publish/door-closed-to-new-dealers-at-ineos-automotive-as-firm-begins-roll-out-of-grenadier/281966 Some interesting snippets of info in there: "Residual values for models...

www.theineosforum.com

DCPU · Jun 25, 2023

And not forgetting the wing tops for overspill:

MrMike · Jun 25, 2023

DCPU said:
And not forgetting the wing tops for overspill:

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Ahhh.....so that's what its for!

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