Towing Again

DCPU · Mar 30, 2023

CountyV8 said:
Yes quite fast I notice he didn't try to attempt the Land Rover change from low to high on the move. Risky at the best of times sort of double double declutching and praying.

Yes, I get it wrong more times than right but do try to keep my hand in by trying every so often.

PBD · May 10, 2023

Hi all,
Have any of you guys found a detachable system that will lower the hight of my Trialmasters tow ball?
As it stands now the top of the tow ball, as delivered is 21" from the ground.
Normal hight is 17.5" to top of tow ball especially for us caravaners!
Anyone found an adapter that will slot into the square nato? receiver.

ECrider · May 10, 2023

PBD said:
Hi all,
Have any of you guys found a detachable system that will lower the hight of my Trialmasters tow ball?
As it stands now the top of the tow ball, as delivered is 21" from the ground.
Normal hight is 17.5" to top of tow ball especially for us caravaners!
Anyone found an adapter that will slot into the square nato? receiver.

maybe worth ringing these guys up;

ARB 2\

Drop Plate With Tow Ball For 2\

www.devon4x4.com

or can you just bolt on a drop plate?

Sorry cannot help more as still 'waiting'

CountyV8 · May 10, 2023

PBD said:
Hi all,
Have any of you guys found a detachable system that will lower the hight of my Trialmasters tow ball?
As it stands now the top of the tow ball, as delivered is 21" from the ground.
Normal hight is 17.5" to top of tow ball especially for us caravaners!
Anyone found an adapter that will slot into the square nato? receiver.

You can't use the 2" receiver in UK so I'm told but go for it if you dare

DCPU · May 10, 2023

CountyV8 said:
You can't use the 2" receiver in UK so I'm told but go for it if you dare

Isn't that unless it's type approved for M1, but OK with N1.

DCPU · May 10, 2023

PBD said:
Hi all,
Have any of you guys found a detachable system that will lower the hight of my Trialmasters tow ball?
As it stands now the top of the tow ball, as delivered is 21" from the ground.
Normal hight is 17.5" to top of tow ball especially for us caravaners!
Anyone found an adapter that will slot into the square nato? receiver.

Are you ruling out something like this:

Nakatanenga Drop tow hitch - 4x4overlander

The Nakatanenga drop tow hitch is e-marked to avoid legal problems and can lower your towing height by 90mm or 160mm - perfect for obtaining the best height

www.4x4overlander.com

Eric · May 10, 2023

PBD said:
Hi all,
Have any of you guys found a detachable system that will lower the hight of my Trialmasters tow ball?
As it stands now the top of the tow ball, as delivered is 21" from the ground.
Normal hight is 17.5" to top of tow ball especially for us caravaners!
Anyone found an adapter that will slot into the square nato? receiver.

Have a look on Amazon they have 2" receiver that is dropped by a good few inches. You can't use a drop plate because of the spacing of the 4 upper holes they are set for NATO M12 bolts.

DCPU · May 10, 2023

Eric said:
Have a look on Amazon they have 2" receiver that is dropped by a good few inches. You can't use a drop plate because of the spacing of the 4 upper holes they are set for NATO M12 bolts.

What are some of the Dixon Bate's actually configured for?

Eric · May 10, 2023

DCPU said:
What are some of the Dixon Bate's actually configured for?
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That looks interesting but I'd be included to stay safe and use a 2" receiver drop, at least that can be removed easily when not towing. I'd also be interested in how much the grenadier drops when the boot is loaded, rear passengers in and a caravan hooked on.

Spjnr · May 10, 2023

The Dixon Bate drop plates can be removed (at least the front portion of it)

I use one on my 7.5ton DAF LF to tow a 3.5 ton digger trailer about.

Very well made, heavy gauge metal all round. It'll be more than good enough for a caravan, and slides up and down to give you more options than the receiver style one

Eric · May 10, 2023

Spjnr said:
The Dixon Bate drop plates can be removed (at least the front portion of it)

I use one on my 7.5ton DAF LF to tow a 3.5 ton digger trailer about.

Very well made, heavy gauge metal all round. It'll be more than good enough for a caravan, and slides up and down to give you more options than the receiver style one

Yes, but I think the issue is going to be the spacing of the upper 4 bolt holes. The centres are closer and smaller dia hole for an M12 bolt as opposed to M16 bolts

PBD · May 10, 2023

Thanks guys, did try Devon 4x4 but got a guy who had never heard of Ineos and just said check the web site for suitable vehicles.
The EU regs that say an N1 can use the 2" receiver but not the M1 are a joke. Chances of falling foul of plod whilst towing are remote , I just want something I can detach as soon as Ive stopped towing to increase the ground clearance

ECrider · May 10, 2023

PBD said:
Thanks guys, did try Devon 4x4 but got a guy who had never heard of Ineos and just said check the web site for suitable vehicles.
The EU regs that say an N1 can use the 2" receiver but not the M1 are a joke. Chances of falling foul of plod whilst towing are remote , I just want something I can detach as soon as Ive stopped towing to increase the ground clearance

Not sure from that if you will use a 2" receiver or not?

If you would then I'd measure this up and see if suits.

ARB Tow Drop Hitch 3500kg 50mm 2" - 4x4 Works

Quality towing parts and accessories from ARB and Bushranger. Tow with confidence. Available to buy from 4x4 Works.

www.4x4works.co.uk

ECrider · May 10, 2023

Simple to remove/adjust. Torque the nuts up on the ball and ready to go.

PBD · May 10, 2023

ECrider said:
Not sure from that if you will use a 2" receiver or not?

If you would then I'd measure this up and see if suits.

ARB Tow Drop Hitch 3500kg 50mm 2" - 4x4 Works

Quality towing parts and accessories from ARB and Bushranger. Tow with confidence. Available to buy from 4x4 Works.

www.4x4works.co.uk

Yep Would defo use the 2" receiver mate, will call them tomorrow.

Logsplitter · May 10, 2023

ECrider said:
Not sure from that if you will use a 2" receiver or not?

If you would then I'd measure this up and see if suits.

ARB Tow Drop Hitch 3500kg 50mm 2" - 4x4 Works

Quality towing parts and accessories from ARB and Bushranger. Tow with confidence. Available to buy from 4x4 Works.

www.4x4works.co.uk

Might get one of those for myself on my Grenadier utility. Looks just the ticket

ECrider · May 10, 2023

Logsplitter said:
Might get one of those for myself on my Grenadier utility. Looks just the ticket

Aye likewise. This is too much of an anchor time to time.

Logsplitter · May 10, 2023

ECrider said:
Aye likewise. This is too much of an anchor time to time.

Yes agreed on the anchor I used to have one of those drop plates on my hilux. Great for towing but too low otherwise.

PBD · May 10, 2023

Just had a reply from Brink UK. The do make and supply the towing equipment to Ineos for the Grenadier. towing regs say loaded and hitched up top of ball must be 350mm to 420 mm high.
Mine is 525mm so not even in the ball park!
They suggested taking it up with INEOS!

frankkk · May 10, 2023

PBD said:
Thanks guys, did try Devon 4x4 but got a guy who had never heard of Ineos and just said check the web site for suitable vehicles.
The EU regs that say an N1 can use the 2" receiver but not the M1 are a joke. Chances of falling foul of plod whilst towing are remote , I just want something I can detach as soon as Ive stopped towing to increase the ground clearance

That'll be Rockinger Varioblock for you then...very neat system. Whatever you fancy attaches to the receiver element (the one on the right in the first pic) with a twist: The centre element in the 1st picture is a base plate, one is required for each configuration.

The second pic shows one version of a NATO hook mounted to a baseplate for the Variobloc system.

The third pic shows the different balls available (plus lower ones from third party suppliers, like the one earlier) to be mounted to a base plate.

When no trailer is being towed, remove the attachment and cover the receiver with the black plastic cover, the one on the left in the first pic.

ROCKINGER Produkte für Nutzfahrzeuge Katalog: RO*100, VARIOBLOC

rockinger-commercial-vehicles.jost-world-catalogues.com

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