Transfer Box Lever

DCPU · Nov 28, 2022

Has anyone noticed that the high low lever does not have a neutral position?

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grenadierboy · Nov 28, 2022

yeah. The old G wagens have High-Neutral-Low but i suspect that's because of the 40 year old design of the transfer case

DaveB · Nov 28, 2022

DCPU said:
Has anyone noticed that the high low lever does not have a neutral position?
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Why would it need a neutral position???
It is normally in high unlocked constant 4WD
It can then be moved to Low unlocked 4 WD or high locked 4wd or low locked 4WD
There is no PTO mode.

Disco Dave · Nov 28, 2022

It would be great for towing an auto tranny.

bemax · Nov 28, 2022

Presumably there is a neutral position between witch should not be used

DaveB · Nov 28, 2022

bemax said:
Presumably there is a neutral position between witch should not be used

No there is no neutral position.
It is a very mechanical shift between locations.
You can actually feel the gears engage as you move the lever.

bigleonski · Nov 28, 2022

DaveB said:
Yes. Maybe I will ahve to start carrying my keys in my left hand pocket instead of my right.
Then I will have to get them out with my left hand and voila

I haven’t taken my keys out of my pocket near the 200 series for over 10 years. Auto sensing and Auto start is actually pretty handy and I’ll miss that. Actually having to use a key again will be weird, and until I’m used to it again, probably a pain in the ….

DaveB · Nov 28, 2022

bigleonski said:
I haven’t taken my keys out of my pocket near the 200 series for over 10 years. Auto sensing and Auto start is actually pretty handy and I’ll miss that. Actually having to use a key again will be weird, and until I’m used to it again, probably a pain in the ….

My wife has a mini and when she goes to the beach she puts the key in a lock box as she has for many years with many cars.
Until I showed her that provided the key is within 1.5-2 metres of the drivers seat you can open the door and start the car .
Happily drive forever with the key in the lock box.
Conversely in my car you need to physically put the key in the ignition and turn it
It is so annoying, time consuming and tiring to put my key in the ignition and turn it but I have learnt to live with it.

ECrider · Nov 28, 2022

ha. I turned off the keyless entry on the D4, I can just about manage to push the button and open the door.

thieves in these parts scan for your keys while in your house (if not in a faraday type blocker) gain access to your car in seconds and drive off! All the while your car thinks the keys are in it.

scrotes!

DaveB · Nov 28, 2022

ECrider said:
ha. I turned off the keyless entry on the D4, I can just about manage to push the button and open the door.

thieves in these parts scan for your keys while in your house (if not in a faraday type blocker) gain access to your car in seconds and drive off! All the while your car thinks the keys are in it.

scrotes!

Insurance companies in Australia report that 70% of all car thefts are done using the vehicles own keys.
Second highest is when the thieves scan the keys through the closed door hanging on a hook or on a cupboard and then capture the code.

klarie · Nov 28, 2022

I ve got my keys in a faraday / blackout box of metal and carbon.

CountyV8 · Nov 28, 2022

klarie said:
I ve got my keys in a faraday / blackout box of metal and carbon.

Tied round a Pit Bulls neck

DCPU · Nov 28, 2022

Disco Dave said:
It would be great for towing an auto tranny.

Quite.

DCPU · Mar 29, 2023

Owner's Manual, Page 87:

So there's a way to get neutral:

DCPU · Mar 29, 2023

And an interesting video on the inner workings:

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=884313809533540

View: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=884313809533540

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RoadBuilder · Mar 29, 2023

DCPU said:
And an interesting video on the inner workings:

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=884313809533540

View: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=884313809533540

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Glad to see that it is 100% gear-driven, rather than utilizing a belt or chain, like so many other transfer cases.

DaveB · Mar 29, 2023

RoadBuilder said:
Glad to see that it is 100% gear-driven, rather than utilizing a belt or chain, like so many other transfer cases.

and not a clutch in sight explaining why you need to be stopped and in neutral

DaveB · Mar 29, 2023

After all the comments on changing from high to low and engaging these on the move in the old Defender I thought I would do some research
Some snips taken from the old Defender 90 manual and posted in 2005
It would appear lots of options are physically possible in the old Defender but not necessarily recommended
I noticed the Defender transfer lever has Neutral position between L & H so you are never going directly between the two.
It also mentions speed limits and depressing the clutch pedal.
Hard to do in the Grenadier
I am pretty sure I recall our Austrian friend changing from low to high while doing about 60kmh (estimated) in Budapest???

bigleonski · Mar 29, 2023

DaveB said:
After all the comments on changing from high to low and engaging these on the move in the old Defender I thought I would do some research
Some snips taken from the old Defender 90 manual and posted in 2005
It would appear lots of options are physically possible in the old Defender but not necessarily recommended
I noticed the Defender transfer lever has Neutral position between L & H so you are never going directly between the two.
It also mentions speed limits and depressing the clutch pedal.
Hard to do in the Grenadier
I am pretty sure I recall our Austrian friend changing from low to high while doing about 60kmh (estimated) in Budapest???

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Dave for me it’s never been a requirement to go from high to low or low to high on the move. In the numerous 4wds I’ve had that’s never been required and always been done static (or almost).

The previous argument has been the capacity to engage the centre diff lock (in high range) whilst driving. Every 4wd I’ve had has this capacity (Toyota up to around 100km/hr), whether via a stick or push button, and not to have that capability would be a major flaw.

DCPU · Mar 29, 2023

bigleonski said:
Dave for me it’s never been a requirement to go from high to low or low to high on the move. In the numerous 4wds I’ve had that’s never been required and always been done static (or almost).

High to low is difficult to achieve simply because of the gearing; but low to high is reasonable when towing, especially when you've stopped on an uphill and need to start off again.

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