Wrangler better?

[vtgrenadier]

I don't have much experience with the JL, but have a JK (2017) that excels at its intended purpose: running up and down the beach in search of stripers (the fish, not the occupation... although, I've seen some disrobe in the heat). I pulled all of the carpeting out on Day One and built rubber-linked mats (like the kind Series Land Rovers were fitted with). By Fall, there's a solid 1" of sand accumulated on the floors... it's very much used as a tool and with the half-doors, both rare and functional in 4-door configuration.

I drove my Grenadier up my dirt road for the first time during what we in Vermont call "mud season." Boy was I disappointed in the washboard performance of the Grenadier! Almost worse than the Jeep.

 

[RobP]

I currently have 2 Wranglers, a 2 door JL Rubicon on 35's and a 4 door JL Rubicon on 35's (Exteme Recon package). To me, the Grenadier is much more comfortable in every situation with the exception of the driveline vibration on the highway at 2k rpms. It's much smoother on and off road and offers significantly more storage than the 4 door JL Wrangler. I do have the Fox adjustable steering stabilizer on the Grenadier, otherwise I'd prefer the Wrangler steering. I prefer the full time 4wd on the Grenadier as well. The Wrangler steers very differently when it's in 4wd mode.

 

[CRH]

The Wrangler steers very differently when it's in 4wd mode.

That's quite interesting, I'm guessing you mean worse, is it worse than the Grenadier with the stock stabiliser?
I'm happy with mine on the stock one with nr 20,000 miles on it, it holds steady and will slowly centralise just need to input a bit more for the last 45 degrees ish.

 

[HereinDaRockies]

I currently have 2 Wranglers, a 2 door JL Rubicon on 35's and a 4 door JL Rubicon on 35's (Exteme Recon package). To me, the Grenadier is much more comfortable in every situation with the exception of the driveline vibration on the highway at 2k rpms. It's much smoother on and off road and offers significantly more storage than the 4 door JL Wrangler. I do have the Fox adjustable steering stabilizer on the Grenadier, otherwise I'd prefer the Wrangler steering. I prefer the full time 4wd on the Grenadier as well. The Wrangler steers very differently when it's in 4wd mode.

You don’t find your 4 door Rubicons to be “cushier” than the IG?

In my week with it I found the Rubi to be way cushier than my IG on and off road ( high speed washboard and potholes). I blast it down whatever in front of me.

With the IG I find myself bracing for impending road surface imperfections, knowing it will be a stiff or jarring bump

 

[HereinDaRockies]

That's quite interesting, I'm guessing you mean worse, is it worse than the Grenadier with the stock stabiliser?
I'm happy with mine on the stock one with nr 20,000 miles on it, it holds steady and will slowly centralise just need to input a bit more for the last 45 degrees ish.

4h on the wrangler involves locked center diff, so does not compare to IG’s 4wd with open center diff. Steering with center diff locked is highly awkward on high traction surface..

 

[HereinDaRockies]

drove my Grenadier up my dirt road for the first time during what we in Vermont call "mud season." Boy was I disappointed in the washboard performance of the Grenadier! Almost worse than the Jeep.

Yeah washboard in my grenadier sucks… rattles and uncomfortable.
this was the most pronounced difference that I felt with the Rubicon. The rubicon was also at 44psi. It still felt much better than my IG at 36psi

 

[MattA]

haven’t read the whole thread but holly crap, jeep better than a Grenadier, that is not confidence installing that’s for sure