Julian Assange is out of jail perhaps he could do an inileaks
Love it. Start a bounty fund. I'm in. All the raw drawings and specs and instructions, plus bus protocols for reading/writing settings and options.Julian Assange is out of jail perhaps he could do an inileaks
I think you raise a really good point.It will be interesting to see how large and in-depth the Grenadier QM manual will be. I can see a condensed manual with systems operation, common mechanical repairs and electrical diagrams and codes still being the best option for most DIYers. I received a full NP300 Nissan Navara manual a while ago and it is over 6800 pages and covers everything with many jobs being specialised, with specialised equipment and well out of the scope of the home mechanic and some workshops. A little different to the old Haynes and Gregorys of years ago that covered most jobs well under 1000 pages.
I think transfer case and diffs would be a significant addition and most could take these on without too much issue however a BMW engine and the ZF auto transmission rebuild may be out of the scope of most as there would be to many specialist tools and procedures that would be totally unviable to buy or complete as a home mechanic. IMO just an explanation of how all the systems work technically and basic servicing would suffice for most owners and let the enthusiast be more knowledgeable about the vehicle without the in-depth technical repair information, a bit like the Haynes series of workshop manuals about tanks and aircraft from WWII.I think you raise a really good point.
Whilst I have rebuilt engines in the past, I have no desire to see the finer details of how to strip and rebuild the IG engine, transmission, transfer box, diffs etc. I doubt if many owners would think otherwise.
Personally I would be happy with a far more basic guide including such things as servicing details, belt changes, electrical systems and fault finding.
The full WSM availability is key. When out of warranty and repair is required, it is helpful to see the full scope of work required, even if some is specialist work.It will be interesting to see how large and in-depth the Grenadier QM manual will be. I can see a condensed manual with systems operation, common mechanical repairs and electrical diagrams and codes still being the best option for most DIYers. I received a full NP300 Nissan Navara manual a while ago and it is over 6800 pages and covers everything with many jobs being specialised, with specialised equipment and well out of the scope of the home mechanic and some workshops. A little different to the old Haynes and Gregorys of years ago that covered most jobs well under 1000 pages.
the elon musk school of product fulfillment.I have a feeling only legal action will force their hand. It's a major disappointment TBH.
He got his trucks, we got some trucks; that’s enough of a win for me. Frankly, I think he’ll just sell it to BMW so they have an offset to the G-Wagen- but even Gwagen sales (or at least mark-ups) aren’t what they used to be. The truck isn’t going to make a dent in sales, and the lack of advertising will always hinder it. I was at the recent 4x4 expo in Denver, and people in the IG booth said that most people walking by had never heard of an IG- and these are people at a 4x4 EXPO. As much as we like the off-road capabilities, if they don’t sell enough to mall-crawlers to keep numbers up this isn’t going to work out.the elon musk school of product fulfillment.
i wonder at what point Jim looked at the expense and hassle of running a car company, and handed it over to the bean counters to save his wealth as much as they can. It really does seem like he's moved on from the story.
Attached is a conversation I had with Greg Clark VP of the Americas prior to his departure. He did confirm the worksop manuals were coming. See the attached youtube link to see that they do exist.Hello,
are there some dealer/workshop guys around here?
Does someone know if workshop manuals are available, yet and if they are sold to the public?
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On Jun 7, 2024, at 1:30 PM, Mark Steputis <marksteputis@mac.com> wrote:
Greg I am just checking back on our conversation from five months ago. I am excited to hear of the new models and programs but wish to reiterate the need of keeping the promises from years ago now. The online workshop manuals are part of what I purchased and those promises need to be elevated to the forefront so they can be met. Please let me know what my expectations for this should be. Thanks again Mark Steputis
On Jan 11, 2024, at 6:56 PM, Clark, Greg <Greg.Clark@ineos.com> wrote:
Thanks for your understanding, Mark. Very much appreciated.
We’ll keep everyone updated and look forward to announcing its launch as soon as possible.
Best,
Greg
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M: +1 919 935-8393
www.ineosgrenadier.com
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Thanks Greg, I very much appreciate your candid and timely responses. From what I have seen, the you tube piece available on line from CAD-IT UK is a game changer and would clearly help define this new brand as a leader amongst any of its competitors. I will be content to wait, as it is said “ good things come to those who wait”. I appreciate all you and the team have done to bring this new brand to market. Best Wishes Mark
On Jan 11, 2024, at 1:55 PM, Clark, Greg <Greg.Clark@ineos.com> wrote:
Hi Mark,
Thanks for confirming and for the clarification.
You’re right – we have indeed been open in our intentions to provide an accessible version of the 3D parts catalogue and repair manual and we intend to follow-through on this. The reality of what we have taken on (and achieved) in the past 12-18 months has meant that unfortunately some projects have not progressed as quickly as we originally planned. This tool is unfortunately one of them.
Launching in >40 markets around the world, doubling production capacity at Hambach and starting development of the second INEOS car line – all in 2023 – has been immensely taxing.
Sorry to have to ask for your patience on this one, but we’ll progress this just as quickly as we can. In the meantime, thank you very much for being a Grenadier customer and for your support of our new brand!
Copying Lynn and Chris to keep everyone in the loop.
Best,
Greg
Greg Clark
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INEOS Automotive
M: +1 919 935-8393
email: greg.clark@ineos.com
www.ineosgrenadier.com
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The YT content is more than 2 years old. There should have been progress since then. We don't even know if the original company is still involved...Attached is a conversation I had with Greg Clark VP of the Americas prior to his departure. He did confirm the worksop manuals were coming. See the attached youtube link to see that they do exist.View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1c7QlNDylw&t=1s