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What did you do with your Grenadier today?

Baron von Teuchter

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Thanks a lot. Yes indeed, she behaves very well on the snow and ice, those tyres are excellent.

Absolutely gutted here but hoping it doesn’t take too long to get sorted.
 

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Thanks a lot. Yes indeed, she behaves very well on the snow and ice, those tyres are excellent.

Absolutely gutted here but hoping it doesn’t take too long to get sorted.
Nothing i say can make you feel any better, I know i would feel sick it were me.in your situation. Just so sorry for you, as everyone always says, at least nobody was hurt. Doesn't make you feel any better about it but it's all you can be grateful for.
I would hate the wife to get hit in her little Panda,,, she's makes an amazing steak and ale pie😋
 

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Thanks a lot. Yes indeed, she behaves very well on the snow and ice, those tyres are excellent.

Absolutely gutted here but hoping it doesn’t take too long to get sorted.
Standard, dicky/cheeky 4x4 forum response - it'll buff out ;)

Seriously though, as I said in conversation with Stu yesterday - stuff can be repaired or replaced but it's much harder with people. I'm glad everyone is OK.
 

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Well I got crashed into by an old Defender.

Bit snowy. He came round a bend, locked up, couldn’t slow, couldn’t steer, slid into “my” side of the road and crunch. Everyone ok. I drove home (just a mile or so) but losing coolant.

Bugger.

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New wing, wing top, headlight, duct for the cooler (is that the PAS cooler on that side?), some plastic bumper bits and wheel arch, arch liner. Hooefully just a water hose but maybe the rad took a knock.

“Revenge of the Defender” (Seriously, so sorry this happened to you, I know how hard it is to get that first scratch on a new car, let alone this 🙁). Bill
 

Baron von Teuchter

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Thanks all, yes absolutely, my wife and daughter were in the car and the other fella had his wife and two dogs. Everyone completely fine. It was actually a very low speed impact, just frustrating.

The cheeky bugger actually said “bloody pretend defenders!”

Shame his bloody Defender didn’t have ABS.

I have a pic (I won’t share yet) of the tyre marks that make it pretty clear what happened and exonorates me I think.

These things happen, just a bloody shame.
 
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Well I got crashed into by an old Defender.

Bit snowy. He came round a bend, locked up, couldn’t slow, couldn’t steer, slid into “my” side of the road and crunch. Everyone ok. I drove home (just a mile or so) but losing coolant.

Bugger.

View attachment 7883986

New wing, wing top, headlight, duct for the cooler (is that the PAS cooler on that side?), some plastic bumper bits and wheel arch, arch liner. Hooefully just a water hose but maybe the rad took a knock.
Ouch. Sounds like it was low speed which is fortunate. The front corners do seem a bit soft on the Grenadier. I have seen similar but lesser damage on our steel bumper equipped Australian vehicles including bending of the bolt-on Roo Bar. Possibly part of the crumple zone.

The cooler in the RH wing of RHD vehicles is an auxiliary engine cooler (radiator). The LH wing houses the transfer case oil cooler.
Coincidentally I followed the auxiliary cooler hoses on my vehicle last weekend in a 'if this gets damaged can I bypass it?' exercise. The cooler hoses are retained by spring clips. The hoses trace back to T joiners in the upper and lower main radiator hoses which puts the auxiliary cooler in parallel with the main radiator. It's some of the extra plumbing that makes that frontal engine area look like a bucket full of smashed crabs - junk everywhere :rolleyes:
In a pinch I believe this cooler could be bypassed to get a vehicle out of trouble. I can't see any flow control devices, thermostats etc.
There would be an impact on cooling capacity due to the reduction of radiator surface area and we know the HVAC is sensitive to air in the cooling system so there will be secondary problems, but a bypass should at least get the vehicle to a better recovery location and might even get you home with close temperature monitoring.
You would need to replace any lost coolant or use demineralised water temporarily, plus do a cooling system bleed.
 

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Ouch. Sounds like it was low speed which is fortunate. The front corners do seem a bit soft on the Grenadier. I have seen similar but lesser damage on our steel bumper equipped Australian vehicles including bending of the bolt-on Roo Bar. Possibly part of the crumple zone.

The cooler in the RH wing of RHD vehicles is an auxiliary engine cooler (radiator). The LH wing houses the transfer case oil cooler.
Coincidentally I followed the auxiliary cooler hoses on my vehicle last weekend in a 'if this gets damaged can I bypass it?' exercise. The cooler hoses are retained by spring clips. The hoses trace back to T joiners in the upper and lower main radiator hoses which puts the auxiliary cooler in parallel with the main radiator. It's some of the extra plumbing that makes that frontal engine area look like a bucket full of smashed crabs - junk everywhere :rolleyes:
In a pinch I believe this cooler could be bypassed to get a vehicle out of trouble. I can't see any flow control devices, thermostats etc.
There would be an impact on cooling capacity due to the reduction of radiator surface area and we know the HVAC is sensitive to air in the cooling system so there will be secondary problems, but a bypass should at least get the vehicle to a better recovery location and might even get you home with close temperature monitoring.
You would need to replace any lost coolant or use demineralised water temporarily, plus do a cooling system bleed.
I only just read yesterday that not only are our Eu regulated front bumpers plastic, known, but the wings are also weaker (deformable) for pedestrian protection. Non eu ones get stronger wings. Not great! Why pedestrians insist on getting in front of vehicles is baffling??!🤣
 

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I only just read yesterday that not only are our Eu regulated front bumpers plastic, known, but the wings are also weaker (deformable) for pedestrian protection. Non eu ones get stronger wings. Not great! Why pedestrians insist on getting in front of vehicles is baffling??!🤣
Australian pedestrians are either stronger - or less valuable to society. I suspect the latter.
 

Baron von Teuchter

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Ouch. Sounds like it was low speed which is fortunate. The front corners do seem a bit soft on the Grenadier. I have seen similar but lesser damage on our steel bumper equipped Australian vehicles including bending of the bolt-on Roo Bar. Possibly part of the crumple zone.

The cooler in the RH wing of RHD vehicles is an auxiliary engine cooler (radiator). The LH wing houses the transfer case oil cooler.
Coincidentally I followed the auxiliary cooler hoses on my vehicle last weekend in a 'if this gets damaged can I bypass it?' exercise. The cooler hoses are retained by spring clips. The hoses trace back to T joiners in the upper and lower main radiator hoses which puts the auxiliary cooler in parallel with the main radiator. It's some of the extra plumbing that makes that frontal engine area look like a bucket full of smashed crabs - junk everywhere :rolleyes:
In a pinch I believe this cooler could be bypassed to get a vehicle out of trouble. I can't see any flow control devices, thermostats etc.
There would be an impact on cooling capacity due to the reduction of radiator surface area and we know the HVAC is sensitive to air in the cooling system so there will be secondary problems, but a bypass should at least get the vehicle to a better recovery location and might even get you home with close temperature monitoring.
You would need to replace any lost coolant or use demineralised water temporarily, plus do a cooling system bleed.

Thank you, really informative post!
 

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I put on some rear accessory rails (but kept my door “bumper strips”). Picked them up from my local dealership here in Colorado Springs.
 

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