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What did you do with your Grenadier today?

What always amazes me they manage to squeeze in windscreen washer fluid, I have always been charged for it in dealer services for all my vehicles. I have always filled them prior to prevent there brand being put in (I swear by my Autoglym) and asked them how they managed to get it in, and why syphon mine out.
I agree with you, I have done the same in the past (not this time). Because I arrived very early at the workshop, and papers were lying there unattended in the "Ineos" section I could see a workorder where the customer said clearly: "don't fill the washer fluid".

Next time I'll do the same.
 
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I agree with you, I have done the same in the past (not this time). Because I arrived very early at the workshop, and papers were lying there unattended in the "Ineos" section I could see a workorder where the customer said clearly: "don't fill the washer fluid".

Next time I'll do the same.
I do try to remember to tell them I filled it prior so as not to get charged. One of our cars always has a 1ltr of top up oil left in the car and charged for it, I tell them I have plenty and don't want it so they knock it off the bill and tell me to keep it. Anyone need any oil, I think I could open a shop🤣
 
Mooching around St John’s, Newfoundland. Stumbled across another branch on the family tree…

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On Monday I had my second service + some warranty problems to solve.

Today I got, and paid my invoice (in euros)
ReferenceDescriptionunit priceunitstotal
I003000second service
2​
250.00​
IGRA-1000-012600Oil Filter
25.80​
1​
25.80​
IGRA-2G00-030270Hvac Filter
42.61​
1​
42.61​
IGRA-3A02-008220Air Filter
33.95​
1​
33.95​
ZLINEOSTRANS75W90TRANFER CASE FLUID 75W90
26.70​
1​
26.70​
ZL3710washer fluid
7.64​
1​
7.64​
ZL22972MOTOR OIL 0W20
25.00​
6.5​
162.50​
TOTAL
549.20​
VAT
21%​
TO PAY
664.53​

Funny, the second row mentions 2 units, no unit price and a total of 250 euro, I guess (I am sure) this is two hours of work, means 125 euro/hour for the technician. That is the hourly price of a lawyer or management consultant.
Before somebody explains me that other things are included in that price: yes, also other staff included like the planning man, etc.
But, at my former dealer (Suzuki) it was less than half that price: 50 euro/hour.

What I forgot to mention is that they replaced (for free of course) the front door seals (rubber) because they were loose. They only replace them when the gaps are bigger than 10 cm.
Did they only get 6.5 litres of oil in? Seems a bit low to me. Maybe your garage wanted to save you some money....
 
Did they only get 6.5 litres of oil in? Seems a bit low to me. Maybe your garage wanted to save you some money....
@JeanMercier has a petrol engine so 6.5l engine for on road level. However the maintenance sheet I picked up in South Africa states 7L which I guess is the off road level.
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Exactly. I wonder why the different specs. I believe the engines are the same.
Important to remember that oil spec doesn't exactly qualify a viscosity specifically. It may suggest a viscosity, but it doesn't mean that all (or even most) of the oils of that viscosity meet the required specification. In certain regions there may be a more commonly found oil viscosity that meets the spec than in others (not all brands are available globally), or, it may just be a typo :)
 
A friend of mine is a BMW certified tech. He used to work at a BMW dealership, then an independent Porsche shop in California and now another independent European auto shop. He said the US B58 oil spec used to be 5w/30 but it was recently changed to 0w/20 for fuel economy reasons. For the Grenadier he recommended going with 5w/30, doing a first oil and filter change at 500-1,000 miles and then every 5k after. Oil changes are much cheaper than an engine rebuild. BMW has a different target lifespan for the engine (likely 100-150k miles) than what I have (+250k) so I’ll be doing whatever I can to keep my engine healthy.
 
BMW has a different target lifespan for the engine (likely 100-150k miles) than what I have (+250k) so I’ll be doing whatever I can to keep my engine healthy.
For what it's worth... BMW's target is most likely far below that but I've never seen it in writing; Ineos has their own engine lifespan target which is more inline with your own expectation, and given those expectations, still decided upon 12k mile intervals and LL-17FE+ oil...
 
Important to remember that oil spec doesn't exactly qualify a viscosity specifically. It may suggest a viscosity, but it doesn't mean that all (or even most) of the oils of that viscosity meet the required specification. In certain regions there may be a more commonly found oil viscosity that meets the spec than in others (not all brands are available globally), or, it may just be a typo :)
The oil supplied to me from Ineos Cape Town was 5W30 and that was used for my service at Ineos Kavongo in Maun , Botswana. I’ve had a service since in Cape Town before my vehicle was shipped back to the U.K. and I guess they used the same oil. Is it because ROW spec vehicles are euro4 spec whereas in Europe it’s euro6 🤔
 
The oil supplied to me from Ineos Cape Town was 5W30 and that was used for my service at Ineos Kavongo in Maun , Botswana. I’ve had a service since in Cape Town before my vehicle was shipped back to the U.K. and I guess they used the same oil. Is it because ROW spec vehicles are euro4 spec whereas in Europe it’s euro6 🤔
Is there any difference in the engines delivered to different regions?

My oil choice is a top quality 5w30.
 
Is there any difference in the engines delivered to different regions?

My oil choice is a top quality 5w30.
Same engines but differences in emissions control equipment as I understand. Euro6 vehicles need low SAPS oil. or low emissions oil.
 
Picked up my truck at the end of August - just got it back from an Xpel wrap and wheel powder coating. Supposedly picking up sliders “soon” (getting jerked around a bit by the supplier).

Heaps still to do - air compressor install, bolting on the few pieces of skid plating I got my hands on, and figuring out the Wolfbox install.

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Drove to Club de Golf Alpin in Sainte Brigitte de Laval QC for a work/charity golf tournament benefiting the MS Society in Canada on Tuesday.

My cart partner was jokingly yelling at the other players “f**k Off, Grenadier Owner coming through” (in his French Canadian accent) as he drove me to my car when we finished our round 🤣
 

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