Americas USA Buying Process--Beware (dealer vehicle pricing and business practices)

[255/85]

Looking at the article below...

https://archive.ph/q1GpV

Am I mistaken or have we seen another price increase in NA?

 

[G-Tank]

Looking at the article below...

https://archive.ph/q1GpV

Am I mistaken or have we seen another price increase in NA?

Seems like they added the $1600 destination charge to it.

 

[Krabby]

Seems like they added the $1600 destination charge to it.

Says that right in the article.

 

[255/85]

Says that right in the article.

I saw that but didn't want to be presumptuous. Now I'm not as bummed out.

Yes, terrible. The deer population need to be culled.

There's no love lost between me and the local herd. There are so many does and fawns here that unfenced yards are like having a corral. You shovel sh!t every day.

 

[Xrford]

Looking at the article below...

https://archive.ph/q1GpV

Am I mistaken or have we seen another price increase in NA?

My build price always had the destination delivery price as a sub item since the beginnings of pre orders, Canadian $2000.00. Thus no price increase from my perspective as they have always been transparent about the total price and what is included in that price. Only additional cost would be local taxes, registration + possible dealer doc fees.

 

[A1B2C3D4]

Went to my local Land Rover Dealer today and they still want 10% over MSRP and 20% over on V8 engine Defenders.

Doesnt sound like the Grenadier Dealer is going to be anything over MSRP so I am now fully decided.

 

[255/85]

The Portland, OR dealer has mentioned MSRP pricing as part of the buying experience.

 

[Gunner33]

Just spoke with Brian at the Roswell, GA dealership. Great chat. Ineos strongly encouraged the dealers to take a different approach to the rollout experience. Honoring MSRP, no destination fee, no deposit, no additional fees planned other than labor to install accessories. The only bad news for me is my build month is March next year at this point, presumably due to my late June preorder. But that's ok, because really was not expecting it to arrive until Q2 sometime anyway. Looks to be 2-3 weeks out before getting the demos and scheduling us to come in for a test drive. All good news thus far.

 

[MileHigh]

Just me, but it seems that Reservation date, configuration, and order date should affect it in that order- with reservation date being the main driver, the config driving the batching/parts availability, and really the order date should be a tie breaker at best.

 

[Krabby]

No destination fee would be a fantastic surprise!!!

Could make a drive to Ga worth it really. I wonder if other dealers will follow suit.

 

[Gunner33]

Not sure if that's just this dealer's plans or if they all are considering it. Is the primary cost associated with a true destination fee based on getting it from customs/port to the dealer or is it meant to also cover ship and container? If Ineos is covering the cost to ship to port destination, maybe the short distance from Brunswick to Atlanta is more easily absorbed but Brunswick to a further away dealer isn't and thus another dealer might feel they have to charge something. As the rest of everyone here talks with their dealers in the coming days, it should become more clear.

 

[Lord Ripon USA]

Not sure if that's just this dealer's plans or if they all are considering it. Is the primary cost associated with a true destination fee based on getting it from customs/port to the dealer or is it meant to also cover ship and container? If Ineos is covering the cost to ship to port destination, maybe the short distance from Brunswick to Atlanta is more easily absorbed but Brunswick to a further away dealer isn't and thus another dealer might feel they have to charge something. As the rest of everyone here talks with their dealers in the coming days, it should become more clear.

I think there is a Federal court decision pertaining to standard destination fees.
Every F150 carries the same destination charge, even if you work in the plant that builds them.
It will be hard to negotiate that away.

 

[vjmvjm]

Not sure if that's just this dealer's plans or if they all are considering it. Is the primary cost associated with a true destination fee based on getting it from customs/port to the dealer or is it meant to also cover ship and container? If Ineos is covering the cost to ship to port destination, maybe the short distance from Brunswick to Atlanta is more easily absorbed but Brunswick to a further away dealer isn't and thus another dealer might feel they have to charge something. As the rest of everyone here talks with their dealers in the coming days, it should become more clear.

There is no "true destination fee". It's just an added cost. It has no relationship to the distance travelled or costs incurred. It's no different than MSRP.

 

[Rubicon Maybe]

Just spoke with Brian at Regal in ATL. A very pleasant conversation. He also provided info that slightly surprised me, it appears that my order has a VIN number already and may be near the end of production. The surprise is that the Ineos site has no mention of anything order than acknowledgment of the order.

He also stated no dealer markup fees. It seems they are trying to do things a bit different and create an experience. I wish them good luck in their efforts and appreciate the interaction I have had with them to date.

 

[Planktos]

Has anyone else been asked to sign their contracts with the new dealer for their Ineos? My dealer in Tampa emailed me that we would need to sign the contracts soon. I don't have a build date or delivery date as yet. I'm a bit Leary to sign anything as yet. I don't want to be on the hook and wait 6 month to 2 years before it arrives.

 

[anand]

Has anyone else been asked to sign their contracts with the new dealer for their Ineos? My dealer in Tampa emailed me that we would need to sign the contracts soon. I don't have a build date or delivery date as yet. I'm a bit Leary to sign anything as yet. I don't want to be on the hook and wait 6 month to 2 years before it arrives.

Spoke with Triad (NC) today, he advised January delivery for my vehicle and nothing in regards to contract signing; only that he'd be in touch when the demos arrive to set up a time to come and drive one

 

[ADVAW8S]

It seem only a month ago large portion of ppl in the US were losing their Sh#t over paying over MSRP. I think we all can take a step back and appericate that things may not be perfect but we are moving in right direction.

 

[overland]

Anyone know what the general markup is that a dealer would add? I just built an INEOS Grenadier, sent the build PDF to my local dealer, and am waiting for the dealer to confirm the order.

 

[anand]

Anyone know what the general markup is that a dealer would add? I just built an INEOS Grenadier, sent the build PDF to my local dealer, and am waiting for the dealer to confirm the order.

I see it's your first post here, please read through the threads.... Not a single US dealer has said anything other than MSRP + dealer fees (docs, etc)

 

[Mr.Espresso]

Anyone know what the general markup is that a dealer would add? I just built an INEOS Grenadier, sent the build PDF to my local dealer, and am waiting for the dealer to confirm the order.

There will be NO dealer markup. If they try to play that game with you, move your order to a different dealer who doesn’t markup. The economy is long past the point of markups. They are lucky that we even have a pulse at this point.