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Trump announces 25% tariff on all imported vehicles!

Certainly that's part of the ploy. Standard populist game plan - make everyone think something effective is happening. It's also been mentioned that it could be a half-assed attempt to tank everyone's currency to make the dollar appear strong and help reduce US debt. I'm not sure how that would work tbh.
We will have to ask Elon he'll know :LOL:
 

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Lol… you’re all overthinking it. There no higher plan. He’s never had a higher plan. Just destroy others for personal benefit and drag out the consequences in court until it goes away. Today, its the same plan but on a worldwide scale. It’s a petty sociopathic grifter in charge of things and he’s an idiot to boot. Everyone has thier talents. Einstein had physics, Ron jeremy had his penis, and Trump can play the gullible. Guys like these surround us like a virus 24/7, and usually they disappear like the morons people see them as, but the right guy at the right time, turns into an sickness that kills the host.

I do blame Biden and Garland. They really didn’t get it thru their aged myopic heads this wasn’t some political ploy they would have seen in the 70’s. There was to be no acceptance of defeat because this was no mere policy dispute. It was a coup. They could not bring themselves to conceive this was a zero sum game and American exceptionalism was not on the table this time. Even after J6 they actually didn’t see this coming. They failed us all.
 
That’s a vehicle class restriction - not a physical restriction. Most HD (one ton) trucks (Dodge, GM, Ford) are rated 3500-4500 lbs, depending on engine and suspension (the offroad configs are much lower).
DaveB was refering to US light trucks in Australia. If you want F250s & 2500s on a car licence they're pretty much useless for any thing other than towing. The companies that convert to RHD and sell them here only tend to sell the higher equipped heavy 4x4 diesel versions. It is difficult to get regular cab or lower spec XLT or WT petrol versions of 250s/2500s. In Australia F250, 2500 etc are pushing $200k+ these days.
It's Australian regulations and licensing that restrict most trucks from their full potential as seen in the trucks home market.
View: https://youtu.be/P-9c8ynqBZ0?si=2euKUgoL6u3-ZHQN
 
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This has crossed my mind. If Customs at the big international airports are given the marching orders to crack down, it could get ugly. If you can't prove that camera or watch or laptop or... you left the US with is yours when you return, you could face a $$$ duty or confiscation. I don't want to travel with a camera/lens/watch receipt just in case.
Very good point. I remember when I lived in Hong Kong, people were going over the border on an iPhone release to bulk purchase (because they were much cheaper in China).
 
No idea why quartermaster is even made. No chance at surviving in USA market even if starting at 75k. Gladiator starts at 38k and the top comes off. Why bother. Put those funds into Station Wagon Ineos.
But the ride quality is so much better than a Gladiator... It really serves a different market as well
 
But the ride quality is so much better than a Gladiator... It really serves a different market as well
I think it will always be niche - but it is a GREAT ride. Makes a Gladiator feel like a cheap toy. I thought it was even a better drive than the Grenadier, TBH. A QM with a Norweld set up - oh my gosh. But yeah, not really a crew cab, not a work truck, and really expensive - so I just don’t think we’ll see many. But it’s a common platform with the Grenadier, so doesn’t mean they can’t sell it in the US. Kind of like the Audi A6 Allroad (which I think is on its last year in the US???). Sell a couple thousand a year, and you get excited whenever you see one. It’s a great fit for a very specific buyer - and no harm having it available. Doesn’t really add to operational costs for parts or service to carry the QM in the US.
 
DaveB was refering to US light trucks in Australia. If you want F250s & 2500s on a car licence they're pretty much useless for any thing other than towing. The companies that convert to RHD and sell them here only tend to sell the higher equipped heavy 4x4 diesel versions. It is difficult to get regular cab or lower spec XLT or WT petrol versions of 250s/2500s. In Australia F250, 2500 etc are pushing $200k+ these days.
It's Australian regulations and licensing that restrict most trucks from their full potential as seen in the trucks home market.
So you're saying there are barriers in place to enter your market that aren't tariffs?
 
So you're saying there are barriers in place to enter your market that aren't tariffs?
Those barriers probably exist in every country. Just imagine the USA would be a confederation like the EU. Than California probably would have other important regulations for environmental or agriculture reasons as for example Texas or New Hampshire.
There often are regulations that don’t aim against someone but are established to safe something. If you ever noticed someone entering the USA with a piece of fresh fruit you might know what I mean.
 
Those barriers probably exist in every country. Just imagine the USA would be a confederation like the EU. Than California probably would have other important regulations for environmental or agriculture reasons as for example Texas or New Hampshire.
There often are regulations that don’t aim against someone but are established to safe something. If you ever noticed someone entering the USA with a piece of fresh fruit you might know what I mean.
Yes, I know what you mean. My comment was focused on that there are barriers to entry into a market that aren't strictly tariffs.
 
But the ride quality is so much better than a Gladiator... It really serves a different market as well
Like what? I cant figure out what market it's made for. The back seats suck, the bed is small, the spare is in the bed, the payload is noncompetitive, towing capacity is small truck category, turning radius offroad is comical, the luxury and comfort can't hold a candle to top tier US models that are cheaper, mileage is worse than any US 3/4 ton offering, warranty support is nonexistent... I'm down to the "looks cool in the driveway/cars and coffee" market. If Inoes fell short of the d110 with the wagon, they aren't even on the same field as the beater tool d130 high cap. This thing is a "Jack of no Trades, Competent at None". They would have been soooooo much better off making tooling complimentary d90 and d130 units, with actual stripper panel van versions for industry, and offset the new defender offerings, than wasting all thier R&D on a pretend pickup truck.
 
@Zimm I think you are looking through a USA lens. But globally the QM is competitive. I personally think it drives better, my kids have no choice to like the rear seats. The 5 foot bed is the same size I see Tacoma and Rangers. Raptors come in at 5 .5 foot beds. Here is a comparison of the bed widths for the Ineos Quartermaster, Ford F-150, Toyota Tacoma, and Nissan Frontier:
Ineos Quartermaster:
* Cargo Bed Width at Floor: 63.7 inches
* Cargo Bed Width Between Wheelhousings: 44.8 inches
Ford F-150:
* The bed width is generally 50.6 inches for the 5.5-foot, 6.5-foot, and 8-foot bed lengths.
* Some sources indicate a maximum bed width of 66.9 inches for certain configurations.
* The width between the wheel wells for the 5-foot and 6-foot cargo boxes is 44.8 inches.
Toyota Tacoma:
* The bed width at the tailgate is approximately 53 inches.
* The width between the wheel wells is approximately 41.5 inches.
* The maximum bed width is around 56.7 inches.
Nissan Frontier:
* Maximum Bed Width: 61.4 inches
* Bed Width Between Wheel Wells: 44.5 inches
Summary of Bed Widths (Maximum Width):
* Ineos Quartermaster: 63.7 inches
* Ford F-150: ~50.6 - 66.9 inches (depending on configuration)
* Toyota Tacoma: ~56.7 inches
* Nissan Frontier: 61.4 inches
Key Takeaways:
* The Ineos Quartermaster generally has the widest bed at the floor among these trucks.
* The Ford F-150 offers different bed widths depending on the specific bed length and configuration, with some configurations potentially being the widest overall.
* The Nissan Frontier has a wider bed than the Toyota Tacoma.
* The width between the wheel wells is an important measurement for fitting certain types of cargo. The Ford F-150 and Ineos Quartermaster have a similar width between the wheel wells, which is slightly wider than the Nissan Frontier and noticeably wider than the Toyota Tacoma.
It's important to note that these are general figures, and specific measurements can vary slightly depending on the model year, cab configuration, and bed length chosen for the Ford F-150, Toyota Tacoma, and Nissan Frontier. Always refer to the manufacturer's specifications for the most accurate dimensions of a specific vehicle.
 
Yes, I know what you mean. My comment was focused on that there are barriers to entry into a market that aren't strictly tariffs.
I think it’s pretty obvious those restrictions are not about trade impediments or protectionist policies - to say so would I think be misleading. A Glock is also incredibly expensive in Australia- presuming you can even get the license to have one. I compared US and Australia pricing on that with my Uber driver in Melbourne. That’s not because Australians are trying to protect domestic gun manufacturing from the Austrians. Every country sets its own laws about vehicle classification, registration, licensing, permits - all of which are essential to their strategy for safety, efficiency, and infrastructure- separate from trade policy. Australians get bull bars but are obsessed with vehicle weights. They also have a ton of washboard dirt roads with kangaroos that have, apparently, all joined a murder/suicide cult - so I totally get it.
 

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Lol… you’re all overthinking it. There no higher plan. He’s never had a higher plan....

That's been true all along. Interview after exhaustive interview from the 1980s until now were filled with vague assertions of having some secret knowledge or magic bullet that would solve the world's ills. Or make us all rich. Few details were ever given but journalists lined up simply because of professed wealth. A quick look at his business track record should have set everyone straight but image is everything. I suffered through a season and a half of his reality show waiting for him to make some kind of decision that would reveal the inner genius. Bah. That's time I'll never get back.

The question is whether or not Ineos can outwait his term and whatever hijinks that follow in four years so that we can keep a sales/service and parts chain stateside.
 
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