Sheesh the TDS is strong around here.
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I was responding to a post. Was I not allowed to do that since it contradicted your views? You’re allowed to throw up a meme with Musk, call me transphobic, unhinge rant, fake, etc… because why? I disagreed with what was being said? It’s unfortunate some folks get their panties in such a bunch when someone doesn’t agree. It’s also very interesting to see how easily you can twist the narrative to suit your views. The fact that you’re so biased that you actually think I was referencing ‘the left’ rioting at the Capitol.
Bless your heartI don’t get that vibe at all. Some people hate him, sure - but even for the Europeans, the fact they bought such a tough truck with such crappy fuel economy right before EV mandates go into effect, that’s a pretty gutsy crowd if you ask me. This group probably leans towards nostalgia for the past, if anything. But on this particular issue related to tariffs - it’s not TDS to be spooked at the prospect of something as vulnerable as Ineos automotive potentially facing a significant drop in US demand. That’s a real possibility, and it’s not unreasonable to think this could have serious consequences- for the future of the Grenadier and for all of us, who are left holding the bag. That’s a totally fair discussion, and I don’t think irrelevant to this community. Not that discussing it changes anything. Good luck to all of us - hoping for a good and swift resolution.
Sir, you make all logical, sane, and moral points.
Agreed. I think its a way to get businesses to invest in the US. Knowing that moving production is going to take time, a commitment of some tangible amount would probably suffice to reduce or eliminate the Trump tariffs.
I was responding to a post. Was I not allowed to do that since it contradicted your views? You’re allowed to throw up a meme with Musk, call me transphobic, unhinge rant, fake, etc… because why? I disagreed with what was being said? It’s unfortunate some folks get their panties in such a bunch when someone doesn’t agree. It’s also very interesting to see how easily you can twist the narrative to suit your views. The fact that you’re so biased that you actually think I was referencing ‘the left’ rioting at the Capitol.
Right is right and wrong is still wrong for most sane people. Clearly what happened on J6 was wrong, no matter who did it or what party they belonged to…just like it was wrong to burn down police stations during the “mostly peaceful protests” in Portland. Is that nuanced enough for you? Or maybe in your eyes the Portland rioters get a pass cause they’re on your side. It was an example of how both sides have lost their way. “Half” doesn’t mean the Right half is right and the Left is wrong. It’s the half that compose both far left and far right. They are both out of their minds. It’s these people that are pushing these crazy agendas.
I still believe most people are left/right of center and even though there are some things we don’t agree on, we agree on many issues. Now if I happen to be right of center, I risk automatically being labeled as a racist, nazi, transphobic, misogynistic, privileged white male POS.
And what “disinformation” am I spreading? Do tell. Because you love to use that word for anything that doesn’t jive with your views. You’re projecting and you don’t even realize it.
I’m done. You get the last word. Have at it. Make it good
That's a transphobic thing to say. That doesnt make you transphobic, but at least own that you said something transphobic. Didn't ya'll claim to be the party of personal responsibility? Bringing up trans people at all, in this context, unprovoked says a lot and none of it is pretty.
If you truly in good faith were not lumping those together then I apologize, but surely in context you must see why someone would think you were implying J6 was a false flag activity (which has always been a widely spread conspiracy theory)
I mean, come on. This is very reductive. What actually happened is the US had a strong isolationist stance and sat on it's hands for years while the UK fought the Axis virtually alone. We eventually entered the war, sure and that's to be celebrated, but the isolationist stance the US held (which we are now mirroring today) heavily contributed to the scale of Europe's devastation. We should celebrate the win but also acknoweldge the responsibility.
This is just not true. EU countries don't levy 'heavy tariffs' against US products. Well, not yet as the trade wars have barely started. Unnecessary trade wars that Trump is instagating even though by every measure the US benefits from it's position at the top of the global trade pyramid.
Again not true.
Trickle down doesnt work. US corporate taxes are already around the lowest in the western world and yet corporations still offshore jobs, manufacturing, etc.Taxes…businesses set up where it’s most profitable for them. Make them pay too much and they find a different home. Fact is these companies also create jobs and that money gets put back into our economy.
This demonstrates a lack of understanding of how much the US benefits from the stability it's (small from a budgetary standpoint) foreign aid provides. And that spending pales in comparison with defense spending. Hell USAID's budget was only .3% of the federal budget. Musk's companies alone have gotten more government funding ($38B) than USAIDs annual budget ($21B).
Oh god, here we go with the victim complex lol
Archaic, like the Constitution or the Bill of Rights.
Electoral College votes aren’t 1:1 because as you’ve pointed out, it would essentially mean that a few states would dictate the election for the entire country…similar to how @2/3 of Kalifornia is red but the few densely populated areas make it a democratic super majority for years. How’s that state been going lately? Talk about “f’up”.
And using your logic regarding the Electoral College, it’s seems now more than ever it’s needed because about half the country has lost its mind when they think men can be women, require he/him, she/her, they/them pronouns, it’s OK to storm the Capitol or burn down police stations during the “Summer of Love”. Ironic that in this day and age when everyone has a super computer in their back pocket, people appear more stupid than ever (not talking about anyone here, just a general observation)
The US became the power that it is because we basically saved the UK and eventually Europe from Hitler. Once the war was over the US had the infrastructure and resources intact to help our allies. Problem is now 80yrs after the war, the US continues to have pay the most into NATO and continues to have heavy tariffs levied against US products but has not placed similar tariffs from foreign imports. That’s changing and now the world is mad.
I have an idea to heads of the affected countries…drop your tariffs and I bet POTUS will drop ours. Remember these are primarily reciprocal tariffs.
Thinking it’s not OK for the US to do what’s been done to us for decades shows your bias. And that’s fine because you should be thinking about your own country first, but it’s also not wrong for the US to put our needs first as well.
Taxes
How about we stop giving billions of it away to other countries and than get crucified for asking compensation in return when EU countries do the same to countries they give money to.
@mcdoogs last post brought out some strong points. All I will add is yes the constitution and the bill rights are archaic. They were written 300 plus years ago. World has changed and people now use the Constitution as to justify their argument like the forefathers would agree with them. How often do we make amendments to constitution despite everyone saying it's a living breathing document.
I dunn'know. are you saying this should have been a 60g truck all along???
HAHAHAHA. Yea... thats how businesses plan for consumer pricing, by "factoring" in an extra 25%. You must have spent your life in military procurement or something, with unlimited tax dollars to spend and a captive audience as a customer base using negotiated pricing.
You are assuming the economy and society survive the early phases to make it to the later phases. Even if they do, there is no way to tell if that would be better than if we had stayed on our earlier trajectory.
He also does not give a shit about Australia or your opinion.
None of what you said is true, as usual. If we cant offload f-35's to other air forces the per unit negotiated cost will sky rocket, along with the replacement parts needed to keep jets in the air. We can develop bad ass machines for ourselves, BECAUSE the allies will buy enough to get the airframe cost down.
His comment was just plain stupid. Stability ='s growth, and certainty ='s investment. The only military trope you need to know is from Helmoth von Moltke. (the sound of googling, here) In other words, in a universe of infinite possibilities, the only outcome I can guarantee you will not happen, is the one MAGA is planning on.
And ... yes that is right... Forums. This one might shut it down because they had requested no political bullshit and yet DaveB starts speaking out his arse on such politcal matters no one on this car forum cares about. Tarrifs, yes appropriate content as it might effect prices of Ineos products. Other such matters did not need to be brought up. I can only suppose it is because the USA is top dog and the top dog is always attacked for good and bad reasons or, probably more appropriately, DaveB has TDS and is in dire means of serious mental health services. Truth be told, not sure his elevator goes all the way to the top.
Archaic! Having a King is Archaic (as well as pretty damned stupid).
