The Grenadier Forum
Register Now for enhanced site access.
INEOS Agents, Dealers or Commercial vendors please contact admin@theineosforum.com for a commercial account.

Some News..... Software update and delays/deliveries?

DenisM

Grenadier Owner
Lifetime Supporter
Local time
5:36 AM
Joined
Jan 26, 2022
Messages
2,190
Reaction score
4,371
Location
Brisbane, Queensland Australia
I found out why the delay. They are sending the update to dealers via dial up - the old 9.6kbs type and the one that always cuts out when someone calls your landline - with all the customer enquiries they are struggling to get the file across to the dealers was each uploaded takes about 6 days!!!!
OK I'll byte.... but it's a bit that's hard to swallow...🙃
 

AWo

Local time
8:36 PM
Joined
Feb 28, 2023
Messages
1,058
Reaction score
1,978
Location
Germany
I found out why the delay. They are sending the update to dealers via dial up - the old 9.6kbs type and the one that always cuts out when someone calls your landline - with all the customer enquiries they are struggling to get the file across to the dealers was each uploaded takes about 6 days!!!!

However, from Ineos IT perspective that is modern, complicated stuff.

Cheers
AWo
 

Eric

Grenadier Owner
Lifetime Supporter
Local time
7:36 PM
Joined
Oct 27, 2022
Messages
2,335
Reaction score
4,197
Location
Scotland
They were the good old days
Unplugging the phone or fax and plugging in a long cable to the 486
The screeching sound of the dial up modem connecting
Typing in a DOS command
Ah DOS, now you're talking my time, thought I'd never see that again 🤣
 

Shippa

Grenadier Owner
Lifetime Supporter
Local time
3:36 AM
Joined
Mar 2, 2023
Messages
84
Reaction score
84
Location
WA, Australia
Ah DOS, now you're talking my time, thought I'd never see that again 🤣
I still have a copy of MS dos 5 in the box. Hope my new IG will be as easy to understand & operate
 

joejet

Grenadier Owner
Lifetime Supporter
Local time
7:36 PM
Joined
Jun 3, 2022
Messages
263
Reaction score
634
Location
Far far away
I think I may have a drive somewhere in my garage attic.


Oh no the Disk arrived and it’s a 8” floppy.
Screenshot 2023-03-04 at 11.29.41.png






FYI googling 8" floppy might not have been the best plan!!! 🍆
 

DCPU

Grenadier Owner
Local time
7:36 PM
Joined
Jul 27, 2022
Messages
6,005
Reaction score
13,342
I seem to recall that a week or so ago, the 92 vehicles on the dock somewhere due to come to Australia, had been given some sort of "clearance or thumbs up clarification" (I forget the words used by IA here in Australia at the time) but it conveyed the impression that they were cleared at the factory level for immediate distribution and handover once landed in Australia ... no further software updates needed. If that's the case then it would tend to indicate the"trouble" has been sorted out over a week or so ago.
It's always sorted until it isn't:
My dealer gave me the same information but quoted the end of next week. Also I believe there have been other updates released which didn't work or created other issues, so this release may not resolve the problem - time will tell.
Maybe the Oz bound ones got V1.3 and will need V1.4 once they land...
 

DCPU

Grenadier Owner
Local time
7:36 PM
Joined
Jul 27, 2022
Messages
6,005
Reaction score
13,342
Software isn't changed that easily. The authorities of each country, like the KBA in Germany or the NHTSA in the US require a very thorough documentation of each change. A complex procedure. So that is never done quickly.
It surprises me just how regularly JLR do software updates over the air, that adjust various parameters, without any apparent impact upon type approval.
 

trobex

Grenadier Owner
Local time
7:36 PM
Joined
Dec 23, 2022
Messages
1,774
Reaction score
2,371
Location
Australia
They were the good old days
Unplugging the phone or fax and plugging in a long cable to the 486
The screeching sound of the dial up modem connecting
Typing in a DOS command
The 486!
Anyway. Software issues on a vehicle that is meant to be less software driven than is rivals... how does a year of getting software ready lead to this. I wonder what but of hardware is being replaced? Maybe the computer haha!
 

emax

Photo Contest Winner
Forum Moderator
Grenadier Owner
Lifetime Supporter
Local Group Moderator
Local time
8:36 PM
Joined
Feb 23, 2022
Messages
5,708
Reaction score
9,142
Location
Germany

emax

Photo Contest Winner
Forum Moderator
Grenadier Owner
Lifetime Supporter
Local Group Moderator
Local time
8:36 PM
Joined
Feb 23, 2022
Messages
5,708
Reaction score
9,142
Location
Germany
Software isn't changed that easily. ... So that is never done quickly.
The change is. The documentation and the tests are not.

And an update is only the result of the whole procedure.
 

emax

Photo Contest Winner
Forum Moderator
Grenadier Owner
Lifetime Supporter
Local Group Moderator
Local time
8:36 PM
Joined
Feb 23, 2022
Messages
5,708
Reaction score
9,142
Location
Germany
Oh no the Disk arrived and it’s a 8” floppy.View attachment 7805001





FYI googling 8" floppy might not have been the best plan!!! 🍆
The last time I had to mess around with 8" floppies was around 1990 ...

The floppy drive motor was as big as a juggernaut starter.
 

Shaky

Grenadier Owner
Forum Donor
Local time
2:36 PM
Joined
Apr 28, 2022
Messages
1,492
Reaction score
3,133
I think the only think using Dos now is IA customer service who must be constantly dosing about.

I don’t think the update is being sent via a dial up connection, as this speed I think it’s morse code.
 

Stu_Barnes

Grenadier Owner
Fixer & General Dogsbody
Local time
11:36 AM
Joined
Aug 15, 2021
Messages
2,636
Reaction score
8,785
Location
Los Angeles
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned laser discs yet or spool to spool tape drives, personally I'm on the side of Mr Babbage, give me clockwork and gearing any day the week and I'll make it work ;)

I think the IRS still partly use a dos based system....... or did I imagine that?
 

Jean Mercier

GG#920
Grenadier Owner
Lifetime Supporter
Local time
8:36 PM
Joined
Sep 10, 2022
Messages
2,631
Reaction score
9,396
Location
Sint-Martens-Latem, Belgium
Where do you know from?
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned laser discs yet or spool to spool tape drives, personally I'm on the side of Mr Babbage, give me clockwork and gearing any day the week and I'll make it work ;)
I often talk with Latin-American prostitutes, but never have to pay for the talking :eek: , I get paid for it, by the Government :cool:

And nobody (I guess) mentioned "punch cards", I still have one in one of my textbooks, as a souvenir!
 
Last edited:

DaveB

Grenadier Owner
Local time
5:36 AM
Joined
Mar 18, 2022
Messages
7,433
Reaction score
15,142
Location
Toogoom, Fraser Coast Queensland
I think the only think using Dos now is IA customer service who must be constantly dosing about.

I don’t think the update is being sent via a dial up connection, as this speed I think it’s morse code.
I thought Windows still uses DOS in the background.
Type in a command prompt
1677957350086.png
 
Back
Top Bottom