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Show us your crack (windshields)

If your windshield cracked (please answer honestly)

  • Diesel : NO evidence of stone chip or damage prior to crack appearing

    Votes: 13 8.6%
  • Diesel : evidence of stone chip or damage prior to crack appearing

    Votes: 19 12.5%
  • Petrol/Gas: NO evidence of stone chip or damage prior to crack appearing

    Votes: 21 13.8%
  • Petrol/Gas : evidence of stone chip or damage prior to crack appearing

    Votes: 38 25.0%
  • No crack

    Votes: 61 40.1%

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Hoping I don’t get a crack. I’ll have a long windscreen discussion with the dealer when I pick it up.
 

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Also if everyone goes via insurance instead of warranty claim via the dealer will Ineos be slower to recognize the issue and implement a solution?

This is a very good point. I’m going to mention it to my dealer and if it happens again will be looking for a warranty claim.
 

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Anyone else get some noise from the windshield that almost sounds like icy snow is coming down. It's a faint crackling type noise. Not there all the time. Seems to dissipate as the vehicle warms up some? Wondering if this is tension related.
 

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Another one - even worse, this is the loan car not ours. Categorically nothing has hit this windscreen. Drove, parked, returned to a cracked screen. 🤦🏼‍♂️
 

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I suspect the authorisation delay will have been down to a "discussion" between Ineos, the transporter, and the dealer as to who is liable for the damage costs.

Stone cracks or not, they seem very small impacts and appear to be getting quite common now, this s is something INEOS should take up with Pilkington.
As should JLR as I’m informed that the Ineos screen is the same design as the ND and made by Pilkington!
I’ve had major issues in NZ (see my first thread on this a few months back) and is a major reason to exit my ND. I averaged 5000kms per screen over 30,000 kms and when the last one only made one trip of 1200kms that was the end of it for me!
Now I’m seriously concerned about my much anticipated Grenadier 😞
 

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The appointments guy was out of town on a family emergency at my chosen installer, but come Tuesday, I'll have an appointment for an 8mm optically correct clear WPF (Window Protection Film) to be installed. Also getting the orange nose wrap, A-pillars and rear door, with a PPF overlay on the nose, wings, A-pillars and above the windshield in front of the Safari Windows. Basically, stone protection on all leading edges.
Man! If I could get an 8mm thick protective film here in NZ I’d be there in a heartbeat!
 

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Will insurance replace unlimited amount of windshields?
I had so many issues with my screens I asked my insurer if I could have one a month and they actually said “technically” yes! 🤣
Zero excess for me and no impact on premiums, so I’m pretty sure that in time the insurance industry is going to wise up to these increasingly common problems and costs!
 

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Here's the one on my loan car . Agree the spec is not fit for purpose. I have had a detailed technical reply from a UK screen manufacturer who makes for construction vehicles eg Caterpiller.
 

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Here's the one on my loan car . Agree the spec is not fit for purpose. I have had a detailed technical reply from a UK screen manufacturer who makes for construction vehicles eg Caterpiller.
Would you be able to share this info?
 

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Would you be able to share this info?
Looking at the Grenadier online I believe this is a flat windscreen? Unfortunately, glass being as susceptible to impact damage as it is, there is little that can be done whilst remaining in the requirements of ECE R43 for automotive windscreens.



Increasing the overall thickness can help. If the original OEM screen is 4.8mm thick, the outer layer of glass being 2mm, you could increase the windscreen to a 6.8mm construction with a 3mm outer. 6.8mm is generally the thickness used in the construction industry for the likes of JCB and Caterpillar. 6.8 can and will still crack on impact, but the resistance is slightly greater than a thinner material.

(Extract from the email - I dont feel able to share the costings which were focused on getting type approval for any non IA part)
 

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My windscreen has cracked as well, light stone impact lower centre of screen (had to be there of all places) produced a big star. In country area so tried to use repair kit to stop from cracking but the lightest pressure caused two long run cracks either side of star. Bugger.
 

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I also have a crack at the lower part of my windshield. There is no evidence a rock hit it and it’s in the very near location most of you have the same sort of crack. I only had 55 miles on it and woke up the next day to a crack. It was cold the night before and when I turned the heater on the entire window fogged. That was the only thing odd that happened right before the crack.
 

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I have a theory given that a lot of the cracks pictured in this thread are in the lower centre of the windscreen. This is right in front of the demister vents, and perhaps the crack is a result of temperature differential with the demister blowing hot air when it is freezing outside or vice versa.

Cheers
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First Post! And this is where I have come to directly. Owning a Jeep Gladiator I know too well the issues of a bluff plate of upright glass, with 4 screens in 12 months. I am hoping ExoShield (https://www.getexoshield.com/installation) will create one for the Grenadier - they're an awesome bit of kit that I now run on the Gladiator until the Ineos comes along. And for the past 8 months I've had some knocks but no chips or scrapes.

That video is of a Gladiator, but they make them for other makes as well. If not them, then hopefully someone comes along with a kit for it. The Exo for the Gladiator is $AUD485 delivered in Australia, but that includes $185 in shipping!
 
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