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Pickup version spotted today in Graz

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As in the bit on the middle-top of the glass? Do you think that's for lane warning-type stuff?
Well the tech requirements that are mandatory plus maybe some that aren't...
 

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A camera for traffic sign recognition looks similar.
 
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Unfortunately I can’t see it coming to the US ( I would be all over it) with the 25% “chicken tax” applied to all foreign built trucks.
 

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Are there ways around the chicken tax?

It would be funny if Ineos borrowed a play out of the old Land Rover book and shipped CKD (Completely Knocked Down) kits.
 

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Ship it without the bed. The install bed state side
 

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Do Magna contract build anything currently in the States?
 

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Ship it without the bed. The install bed state side
Does that actually beat the system? If so, I'd imagine it would have been taken advantage by now by other manufacturers. Ford got busted for the van thing and I'd imagine there have been others caught with their hands on the cookie jar.
 

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Many of the UK sub 3.5ton double cab pick ups are shipped with no tub as the weight would put them below the one ton payload limit . So if you want a 3.5 ton double cab transit it will be a chassis cab with the tipper added later.
 

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Does that actually beat the system? If so, I'd imagine it would have been taken advantage by now by other manufacturers. Ford got busted for the van thing and I'd imagine there have been others caught with their hands on the cookie jar.
Well I dug deeper and the loop hole was closed in 1980's. Japan was doing this but finally congress shut it down. Then Subaru created the Brat by sticking passenger seats in the bed. That was shut down mid 80s. I did learn that trucks coming through Mexico or Canada have no chicken tax. Plus I learned that Magna has more than 130 manufacturing facilities and over 73,000 employees throughout Canada, Mexico, and the United States,. What's not to say Ineos has it finished in Canada or Mexico and brought over the boarder.
 
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Finger's crossed INEOS is able to figure something out... the chicken tax certainly seems to lead to sub-optimal outcomes for consumers. Although I do agree with others that they look a bit disproportionate (and I really dislike the tail lights), overall I am a fan of the truck, and want to see them on the streets here.
 

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I think these are new:
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Towing eyes don't look very happy...
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Dedicated space for two spare wheels?
 
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Finger's crossed INEOS is able to figure something out... the chicken tax certainly seems to lead to sub-optimal outcomes for consumers. Although I do agree with others that they look a bit disproportionate (and I really dislike the tail lights), overall I am a fan of the truck, and want to see them on the streets here.
It would be great to see over here. But is there really a viable market?
 

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It would be great to see over here. But is there really a viable market?
I don't see it - too much competition at friendlier prices.

I know pickups have worse departure angles by nature, but I have to imagine that's going to be pretty bad without some bigger tires.
 

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The more I look at the bodywork, the more I wish they extend the cab back and have a massive load space. not sure if it would be classed as a van then though.
 

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It would be great to see over here. But is there really a viable market?
I think it would be a special order, not something dealers would have on the lot. But most cars are moving to the custom order. It's cost-effective for everyone and the dealer does not have to sell at a discount to clear lots. I know my family 20 years ago went that way with bicycles. We had bikes in the shop for sizing but everything was ordered and it was available to pick up a week later. No one cared because we were able to give it at a lower cost plus we never had to clean out dead assets.
 
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I think it would be a special order, not something dealers would have on the lot. But most cars are moving to the custom order. It's cost-effective for everyone and the dealer does not have to sell at a discount to clear lots. I know my family 20 years ago went that way with bicycles. We had bikes in the shop for sizing but everything was ordered and it was available to pick up a week later. No one cared because we were able to give it at a lower cost plus we never had to clean out dead assets.
Agreed. I can see having a few on hand, but the days of having acres of inventory in stock are over.
 
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It would be great to see over here. But is there really a viable market?
I don't see it - too much competition at friendlier prices.

I know pickups have worse departure angles by nature, but I have to imagine that's going to be pretty bad without some bigger tires.
If the market we are comparing to is the Tacoma and Colorado, likely not. It will ultimately come down to price. I can see that truck selling so well in Tahoe, Jackson, Dallas... where people with big money are that also crave an adventurous or outdoorsy look (while almost certainly being pavement princesses). It will have appeal due to its authentic, rugged nature, but cost will determine the qty sold, IF it is available IMO.

Also, I think throwing some 33s or 35s will smooth out those proportions, similar to the Gladiator (or any modern Jeep, now that I think about it).
 
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