I believe INEOS had to over engineer the Grenadier - being the first car they have made it can not afford to fail from an engineering perspective
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I believe INEOS had to over engineer the Grenadier - being the first car they have made it can not afford to fail from an engineering perspective
Agree,
Hm.. was of no issue.. on the opposite.. I d like a bit more front bumper..
Yes this was discussed.
What do you expect? High Ground Clearance but Low load area? - That is something what you have to live with.
I was considering this topic with split door. - 1st left then right. However there are many vehicles out with split rear doors.. I do not think this will become an issue..
yep, I think if no locking brace on the right hand door then a strop fixed somewhere on the door with a utility belt end might work. the angle may be too acute but I'll work something out. I'm always stopped at dodgy angles of lean so will need something.
Great to read about your thinking, which I suspect is very similar to that of a lot of people on here - myself included.
This begs the question (and I saw this asked in another thread), what might happen to IA down the track once everything is up and running with vehicles on the road and the company is cashflow positive? Sir Jim has his new car and let's say he decides to focus on another hobby project (maybe a spaceship - billionaires all want a spaceship nowadays) and IA gets sold to another manufacturer (BMW?). Then down the track Grenadier production becomes a bean counting exercise for the new owner and a predictable pattern of cost driven compromises ensues. Will we all be sitting on our porches reminiscing about the amazing quality of early series models back in the good old days when Ineos first built the Grenadier?
Hey there. I’m in the same boat. Tall family and no one willing travel in the DefenderSo I have a Defender TD5 that I've owned since new. It's been a great car. Mostly been used for remote touring with multiple desert crossings. I really can't speak strongly about how well it's treated us. I can honestly say it's going as well now or better than it has ever which is pretty impressive. It's incredibly capable. Can carry a huge amount of stuff. Doesn't use much fuel.
The thing is the family is getting bigger. The last 8000k family holiday involved four people over 180cm, and one shorty at 175. The defender is the ferrari of the desert but the days of driving to the start and end of these trips is killing me.
Plus - it's a bit of a beast to drive around town and no one other than myself will drive it.
I'd kind of given up the idea of replacing it because there just isn't anything else like it. The new defender turn out to be a discovery with defender written on it, so I'm down to the toyota 78 which has lots of things I'm less than impressed with.
I've been watching the grenadier with interest. And now there is a local dealer 2k from my house.Anyway I've had one look at a prototype. I'm going to have a better look while the car is still here and keen to test drive in Feb when they have their cars off the line. I'm hopeful that it's going to be a nicer car on the road than the defender but with the off road ability too. Would be great if it was not unpleasant for the occasional town duties.
I've been scarred by buying prototype cars in the past. I'm nervous about reliability of early models, and the long term support of ineos.
I joined this forum to watch the reports of owners as the cars make it into their hands. Here's hoping it's a gem.
On the prototype that was the first thing I tried was closing the wrong door first. The big door hits on the ladder on the door. Probably won't do much other than scratch it. Could be messy if no ladder.
I thought one of the benefits of hydro forming was that it is cheaper to do than traditional tools/dies?
Look.. I've been a captive to the defender for all these years because I didn't feel I had any real alternative.. until now. I guess I'd be back in the same boat. Realistically if I can get 20 years out of the grenadier.. it's pretty murky that far into the future. I have to be able to do the Madigan on the 100th anniversary so that will be 2039.
"automatically locks the spring at its maximum extension and releases it with a single movement. This safety device prevents hatches from closing unintentionally in case of rolling or pitching. AISI316 stainless steel body."
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It is stronger for less weight
Realistically if I can get 20 years out of the grenadier.. it's pretty murky that far into the future. I have to be able to do the Madigan on the 100th anniversary so that will be 2039.Look.. I've been a captive to the defender for all these years because I didn't feel I had any real alternative.. until now. I guess I'd be back in the same boat. Realistically if I can get 20 years out of the grenadier.. it's pretty murky that far into the future. I have to be able to do the Madigan on the 100th anniversary so that will be 2039.
100% agreed. I mean who knows.Realistically if I can get 20 years out of the grenadier.. it's pretty murky that far into the future. I have to be able to do the Madigan on the 100th anniversary so that will be 2039.
Let’s hope they keep access open then. Lots of other tracks are being closed or permits harder to get.
I mean the other thing is.. my defender is 18 years old now. Is it realistic to expect it will be reliable and capable of this kind of work when it's 25 .. or even 30.Realistically if I can get 20 years out of the grenadier.. it's pretty murky that far into the future. I have to be able to do the Madigan on the 100th anniversary so that will be 2039.
Let’s hope they keep access open then. Lots of other tracks are being closed or permits harder to get.
the Camloc looks like a starter for 10"automatically locks the spring at its maximum extension and releases it with a single movement. This safety device prevents hatches from closing unintentionally in case of rolling or pitching. AISI316 stainless steel body."
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Safety automatic lock for gas springs
And already.. before the first car is delivered.. let the mods begin!the Camloc looks like a starter for 10
nice one
Like I said before, get the diesel and run it on chip oil.100% agreed. I mean who knows.
I don't want to open a can of worms, but what if fuel is limited by some environmental mechanism by then?
Let's be honest.. what if I kick the bucket before then.
