On the fence

[Robedon26]

An Ineos dealership is coming to my area in the spring, which has me back to looking for a vehicle. I haven't been on the forum much of late, and feel the chatter about issues is much more quiet now. Does that mean they are getting some issues ironed out and making them more reliable?

 

[canikony]

I've been waiting on the sidelines due to dealership access and the software issues... beyond annoying things like the speed warning and service reset, I'm not aware of any real reliability issues. What have you been hearing about regarding reliability?

 

[terdrocket]

Mine has been 100% reliable over the almost year and 16k miles that I've owned it. Lifted on 35s for 85% of its life. It doesn't miss a beat.

 

[CrazyOldMan]

An Ineos dealership is coming to my area in the spring, which has me back to looking for a vehicle. I haven't been on the forum much of late, and feel the chatter about issues is much more quiet now. Does that mean they are getting some issues ironed out and making them more reliable?

I don’t know that there were any prevalent QC issues. You probably remember the AC hose leak - that seems fine now. Trailer hitches etc now getting delivered, and you can even add the wiring harness if it wasn’t in your config. Some units have been sitting on lot for a while so you’ll need to check the battery if you don’t do build-to-spec. Front drive shaft issues for those who did the Eibach lift (some of them) but that’s not much of a surprise - aftermarket solutions are showing up to address that. We’re all still fighting about whether the steering stabilizer needs to be swapped for an aftermarket option, whether it makes any difference etc. Some people absolutely losing it over steering pump noise and HVAC, but I honestly can’t tell if that’s real or just a question of expectations - if the Aussies aren’t talking about it but a bunch of Californians and Floridians think it’s the end of the world, maybe it’s them??? I honestly can’t tell - I have no doubt some units might have had real issues so be sure to look at that. And of course, we don’t yet have the ADAS SW patch or service manual. Soooo - that’s my view on the last year’s update. If you aren’t in a massive rush and don’t care about dealer incentives - you can just order your own config - but there is real risk you could be hit by whatever Trump does on tariffs. So losing a $5k dealer incentive and possibly a 10% tariff - a $14k spread vs on-lot inventory.

 

[terdrocket]

Driveshaft / lift issues are purely installer error.

 

[SkiBum1]

An Ineos dealership is coming to my area in the spring, which has me back to looking for a vehicle. I haven't been on the forum much of late, and feel the chatter about issues is much more quiet now. Does that mean they are getting some issues ironed out and making them more reliable?

I have had mine since March and I love it. Literally no issues at all. Everyone complaining expects it to steer and drive like something it isn’t. It works perfectly. I drive mine to work everyday and have not yet taken it off road. It is a fully loaded Fieldmaster and I would recommend getting one fully specd out.

This Ineos has kind of grown on me like a well fitting glove. I can’t imagine getting rid of it, that is how cool and awesome I think it is.

I put on a Milltek non resonated exhaust and it sounds awesome. I also installed a Leitner front light bar bracket and put on Baja designs spot lights. I think it is the coolest looking rig I have ever owned.

Oh I also put on rival skid plates and waiting for front and rear differential skid covers now.

Is this a perfect ride? Hell no! But that isn’t why you will love it. You can drive it literally anywhere and it is built like a fucking tank! It feels very solid and well built (which nothing does in today’s cheap disposable world).

Buy one. You won’t regret it.

 

[ColoradoMike]

An Ineos dealership is coming to my area in the spring, which has me back to looking for a vehicle. I haven't been on the forum much of late, and feel the chatter about issues is much more quiet now. Does that mean they are getting some issues ironed out and making them more reliable?

Welcome Back!

We love our Grenadier! Purchased at the end of August this year and literally have had zero issues with it. 2500 miles with about half of that at least doing off road/rock crawling/fire roads here in the Rockies.

Bone stock except for a GP Factor cubby table in the back. I have a Leitner 3/4 rack in the garage and am awaiting their side Molle panels. I also purchased some White Knuckle Off Road sliders that should come within a month.

You might find that folks complain about the ADAS warnings for going over the speed limit but, to be honest, I don't get annoyed by it. If needed I have it programmed as a favorite to turn it off. NOT a big deal for me.

We love it and are very pleased with it!

 

[bradb622]

Welcome Back!

We love our Grenadier! Purchased at the end of August this year and literally have had zero issues with it. 2500 miles with about half of that at least doing off road/rock crawling/fire roads here in the Rockies.

Bone stock except for a GP Factor cubby table in the back. I have a Leitner 3/4 rack in the garage and am awaiting their side Molle panels. I also purchased some White Knuckle Off Road sliders that should come within a month.

You might find that folks complain about the ADAS warnings for going over the speed limit but, to be honest, I don't get annoyed by it. If needed I have it programmed as a favorite to turn it off. NOT a big deal for me.

We love it and are very pleased with it!

Agreed... and now that the CEO of Ineos Automotive has announced the ADAS will be going away, I think you can scratch that one off the list of things that would hold you back. I would argue not to let that one hold you back even if it weren't on the docket for an update. Early reports of leaks seem to have been resolved, HVAC musings are mostly about small improvements and I think most would agree the Grenadier will keep you warm in the cold and cool you down in the sun. I had an outlier of a power steering pump but I could have addressed that faster by buying a vehicle that sounded like the others on the lot. Either way, that's resolved and I truly have nothing to complain about - the rest is small tinkering for personal preferences (which is incredibly fun).
My first experience in one was unique, off road in Botswana, and the way it outperformed the vehicle I was driving there was astounding. Easy decision then and a decision I would make again.

 

[Jiman01]

An Ineos dealership is coming to my area in the spring, which has me back to looking for a vehicle. I haven't been on the forum much of late, and feel the chatter about issues is much more quiet now. Does that mean they are getting some issues ironed out and making them more reliable?

I’d say that’s about right. IIRC, the initial complaints were things like the warning lights, leaking seals, etc…

It seems to be a rarity on US builds. My 09/24 build hasn’t any issues except for low coolant that was affecting the HVAC. After dropping by the BMW parts counter for some coolant (picked up an oil change kit as well for later), everything has been working fine. I don’t believe the coolant was leaking, just not filled correctly.

Don’t know where you are in SC, but I’ve heard they’re opening one in Charleston. I’m in Greenville, so Regal Ineos in Roswell, GA is still closer for me. I’m hoping they open one in Charlotte or Asheville, NC.

 

[Patriot]

I’d say that’s about right. IIRC, the initial complaints were things like the warning lights, leaking seals, etc…

It seems to be a rarity on US builds. My 09/24 build hasn’t any issues except for low coolant that was affecting the HVAC. After dropping by the BMW parts counter for some coolant (picked up an oil change kit as well for later), everything has been working fine. I don’t believe the coolant was leaking, just not filled correctly.

Don’t know where you are in SC, but I’ve heard they’re opening one in Charleston. I’m in Greenville, so Regal Ineos in Roswell, GA is still closer for me. I’m hoping they open one in Charlotte or Asheville, NC.

What does the serial number on a 9/24 build look like? If I get one I’d like one built as late in the MY as possible. There’s a lot of early build, stale units floating around that I’m steering clear of.