Not Grenadier related - Cheap pickup - Hilux or something else?

[Baron von Teuchter]

My son absolutely loves the grenadier but A: is 18 can’t afford one and B: is 18 so can’t even get insured on mine. Plus I don’t want him pinching it when I need it so he’s after a pickup.

Few options, in the £5-10k range.

Mk7 Hilux. 2.5 or 3.0? Seems the default choice but quite expensive for their age compared to others. Maybe because they’re just better? Or perceived to be better?

I’ve had a few new or nearly new L200’s and whilst I got on fine with them (I bought 3x) as they get older I worry about parts availability now that mitsubishi don’t exist in the UK any more. Plus crank issues and I have bad history with shogun fuel pumps.

Isuzu Rodeo / D-Max, never been in one let alone driven one but I see lots around in basic farmer spec - suggests they’re trusted.

Ranger - best mate has a 3.2 but it’s rusting badly already and he’s had a fair bit of bother with it. Are they all like that?

Amarok, a bit fancy. Anything in his budget is likely trash.

Navara. Hmmmm, lots of rust issues and snapped chassis.

Any opinions? What did I miss?

 

[landmannnn]

My son absolutely loves the grenadier but A: is 18 can’t afford one and B: is 18 so can’t even get insured on mine. Plus I don’t want him pinching it when I need it so he’s after a pickup.

Few options, in the £5-10k range.

Mk7 Hilux. 2.5 or 3.0? Seems the default choice but quite expensive for their age compared to others. Maybe because they’re just better? Or perceived to be better?

I’ve had a few new or nearly new L200’s and whilst I got on fine with them (I bought 3x) as they get older I worry about parts availability now that mitsubishi don’t exist in the UK any more. Plus crank issues and I have bad history with shogun fuel pumps.

Isuzu Rodeo / D-Max, never been in one let alone driven one but I see lots around in basic farmer spec - suggests they’re trusted.

Ranger - best mate has a 3.2 but it’s rusting badly already and he’s had a fair bit of bother with it. Are they all like that?

Amarok, a bit fancy. Anything in his budget is likely trash.

Navara. Hmmmm, lots of rust issues and snapped chassis.

Any opinions? What did I miss?

Insurance for my last pickup was more expensive than the IG, so it might be a complete non-starter.

Your assessments are about right.
Toyota, reliable, slow but overpriced. Great residuals.
Ranger, avoid! Rust and bad engines.
Isuzu, not bad, but you are unlikely to find anything that hasn't been worked very hard.
L200, weird styling and some faults, but pretty good. You would not buy Mitsubishi parts (expensive) so no issues.
Amorak. Looks nice, not reliable, but the VW addicts mean they are overpriced.
Navara, 2011 to 2015 great (especially the V6), the rest rubbish.

 

[Jeremy996]

There's no really good answer for someone of his age, any vehicle is going to be a bear to insure.

My go to if it has to be a pickup would be the Toyota, but have a look at a Land Rover Double Cab, Td5, (the bits will be cheaper, insurance will hopefully be less, it's still a DIY proposition, but it will need a lot of maintenance)

 

[Baron von Teuchter]

The insurance isn’t an issue, business pays it and it’s surprisingly not bad (he has a car of his own which he insures in his name as main driver so nothing dodgy going on).

Jeremy, yes he’d love a Defender but a 110 or 130 DCPU will be too expensive. We have extensive Land Rover experience so are no strangers to home maintenance!

Thanks for the thoughts on the Japanese options. We are going to look at a 2011 Hilux 2.5 D4D tomorrow. 90k miles, year MOT, £6k.

Rust is my biggest worry.

I’d probably rather he got something pre-DPF but it looks like a new one for the Hilux is “only” £500 so not really end of the world.

The Isuzu’s seem to be twin turbo which possibly suggests more failure points / maintenance costs. And if they are generally used by farmers I can imagine them living hard lives.

 

[Logsplitter]

Personally I wouldn’t go Mitsubishi again. I had a 2012 L200 Barbarian from new. At 50k miles head gasket blew and screwed the engine. It’s a known problem with Mitsubishi of that era. For me Toyota is the safe reliable choice if it hasn’t been worked too hard