Interior Pics - PT02

[TNBrett]

Even though it always comes up on car forums where Americans participate, it still always comes up as a shock to many of us non Americans that you guys are always thinking of where you are going to put your handguns. Bizarre world you folks live in.

I could understand that for places it's prohibited from doing so. Not really an issue in states and locations it's legal to do so.

It's OK. No sane civilian ever uses a handgun in anger. If they did, it would be all over the media.
Handguns are for kids and crims.

I'm neither a child nor have a criminal record of any kind. I have health insurance, automotive insurance, homeowners insurance, and a pistol for insurance. I'm not so worried about 2 legged threats as I am 4. I choose to pocket carry so it's out of site for consideration of people's fear of firearms even though I can open carry a desert eagle if I want to. The locking compartment is important to me so I can safely and responsible store it in places it's prohibited.

 

[stickshifter]

Thanks for posting the pictures. I wanted to see the center console storage the most. Looks like there is more then enough room for what I need it for, pistol, box of tissue, and a small first aid kit. Being is locks is a huge bonus.

That center console lock is not good enough for storing a pistol. I'd be worried about liability in the event of theft. Ford is one of the only manufacturers I know that offers a true gun safe as an option from the factory. For most other cars you need to go with Lock'er Down or some other aftermarket safe.

 

[DaveB]

That center console lock is not good enough for storing a pistol. I'd be worried about liability in the event of theft. Ford is one of the only manufacturers I know that offers a true gun safe as an option from the factory. For most other cars you need to go with Lock'er Down or some other aftermarket safe.

I assume you take it out of the gun safe when you are in the vehicle

 

[TNBrett]

That center console lock is not good enough for storing a pistol. I'd be worried about liability in the event of theft. Ford is one of the only manufacturers I know that offers a true gun safe as an option from the factory. For most other cars you need to go with Lock'er Down or some other aftermarket safe.

Locked in a locked vehicle is more then good enough. I have no liability other then reporting the crime and the firearm make, model and serial number. I have no liability for another persons criminal actions as long as I'm following the law.

I assume you take it out of the gun safe when you are in the vehicle

Yes, short distances in my pocket holster and long distances in the center console where I have quick access to it where it's legal to do so. When those are not the case it's in a locked box attached to a cable that's attached to the truck.

 

[stickshifter]

Locked in a locked vehicle is more then good enough. I have no liability other then reporting the crime and the firearm make, model and serial number. I have no liability for another persons criminal actions as long as I'm following the law.

Am I misreading The Federal Firearm Owner Protection Act, passed by Congress in 1986? Here is article 926A:

Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.

 

[AnD3rew]

I could understand that for places it's prohibited from doing so. Not really an issue in states and locations it's legal to do so.

It’s actually the fact that it’s legal to do so that’s kind of shocking to many of us in the rest of the world. This is not a criticism of you specifically, just an observation that it’s kind of confronting when it comes up in these international forums that it’s actually a consideration for you guys when buying cars.

 

[BostromCustoms]

No need guns for protection in this truck, just run them over.

 

[Traffic]

Am I misreading The Federal Firearm Owner Protection Act, passed by Congress in 1986? Here is article 926A:

Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.

Theres a bit more context to consider. 1) This applies for interstate travel (ie traveling between states with differeing firearms laws); and 2) local law law applies for non-NFA controlled items.

In most states it's legal to travel with a loaded firearm, unlocked in your vehicle. This would only apply if you were traveling to a state where it wasn't legal or if you were traveling with a NFA item.

 

[Ichabod]

It's OK. No sane civilian ever uses a handgun in anger. If they did, it would be all over the media.
Handguns are for kids and crims.

Defensive gun use (DGU) by "civilians" with handguns is actually quite common in the USA. It's a heavily unreported statistic, as often just brandishing the weapon is enough to deter the crime. The media, at least here in the US, rarely reports instances of successful defensive weapon deployments and instead likes to focus on the ratings-generating criminal firearms use. Big shocker, fear sells so they peddle it.

 

[Khalfan323]

I showed my wife the pictures, her only comment was “I hope there’s a mirror in the visor…”. I didn’t have an answer …

 

[TNBrett]

I showed my wife the pictures, her only comment was “I hope there’s a mirror in the visor…”. I didn’t have an answer …

Just tell her YES! Has LED's and all! You don't have to say where it comes from.

The answer.

 

[LC0013]

Thanks for posting the pictures. I wanted to see the center console storage the most. Looks like there is more then enough room for what I need it for, pistol, box of tissue, and a small first aid kit. Being is locks is a huge bonus.

I was disappointed in the size of the center console as it seemed pretty small. About my only disappointment on the vehicle and certainly not a deal breaker. As you say-being lockable is a hugh bonus and it gives one an armrest.

 

[Tazzieman]

Big shocker, fear sells so they peddle it.

And people buy it!
Stoking anxiety never ends well.

 

[DenisM]

It’s actually the fact that it’s legal to do so that’s kind of shocking to many of us in the rest of the world. This is not a criticism of you specifically, just an observation that it’s kind of confronting when it comes up in these international forums that it’s actually a consideration for you guys when buying cars.

Many yrs ago "we" were recruiting specialised engineering expertise from the parent company in the USA for a 3-5yr assignment in Australia. One chap could not persuade his wife, who having been traumatised several yrs previously by an attempted car jacking refused to relocate unless she could bring her concealed weapon of choice. He became a much travelled frequent flyer...

 

[m-j]

I showed my wife the pictures, her only comment was “I hope there’s a mirror in the visor…”. I didn’t have an answer …

I told my wife that this is a basic car with bare minimum electronics and she asked will we have to roll up the windows old school. My response, "I wish, that would be so cool."

MJ

 

[DaveB]

I told my wife that this is a basic car with bare minimum electronics and she asked will we have to roll up the windows old school. My response, "I wish, that would be so cool."

MJ

The mirrors are manual adjust if you don't select soft pack or select them as an option

 

[IG_in_AZ]

Handguns are for kids and crims.

Not true. Handguns are for concealing when in polite company or so as to not scare the sheeple.
Otherwise, the handgun is for fighting your way back to the perfectly good rifle you should have had with you in the first place!

 

[DaveB]

Not true. Handguns are for concealing when in polite company or so as to not scare the sheeple.
Otherwise, the handgun is for fighting your way back to the perfectly good rifle you should have had with you in the first place!

You mean fighting your way back to the location you left your perfectly good rifle in your perfectly good vehicle, only to find someone has stolen them both.

 

[IG_in_AZ]

You mean fighting your way back to the location you left your perfectly good rifle in your perfectly good vehicle, only to find someone has stolen them both.

Not if properly locked in a rack....
ETA:
Well, I guess if they get the vehicle.

Reading is fundamental.

 

[WyomingRoaming]

I found the interior quality to be quite nice as well given that it was still a prototype. Certainly not luxurious, but high quality nonetheless. Storage is limited, but that will simply force me to pair down the amount of tools and supplies I constantly lug around… my GMC Sierra has so much storage that I always end up bringing along items that I rarely (if ever) need. May put a Ketzal organizer in there to keep everything tidy. Works well for the RRC.

Not to bring the thread more off topic, (but also, to further the off topic conversation…) I nearly always have a Glock 26 (or larger caliber) with me, with very specific storage spots in my vehicles. Feel naked without it. But my wife and I are planning a trip around the globe, and I was shocked at how strict (also nonsensical) the European laws are for carrying a simple Swiss Army knife! Confusing and inconsistent rules across many countries. Different worlds indeed, having grown up in the Southern US and worked/lived in the Western US for years. I think back to previous family or school trips in Europe where I brought a locking pocket knife along. Glad I was not stopped by law enforcement!

Anyways, interesting to hear differing viewpoints and experiences in such a matter.