hi been lurking here awhile

[Krabby]

The issue is not in the steering, it is on how drivers expect it should steer. Like the Grenadier, my older model Dodge Cummins 2500 is also body on frame, solid axle, front coil springs, with recirculating ball steering, but about 700 lbs heavier. As such, it was built for off-road and heavy duty applications. So, when I drove a Grenadier recently it behaved just like my truck, not like my much more nimble Audi allroad. Two different vehicles, two intended purposes. This is something that needs to be highlighted from the get-go for prospective buyers and casual users.

Very well said.

 

[Dokatd]

The issue is not in the steering, it is on how drivers expect it should steer. Like the Grenadier, my older model Dodge Cummins 2500 is also body on frame, solid axle, front coil springs, with recirculating ball steering, but about 700 lbs heavier. As such, it was built for off-road and heavy duty applications. So, when I drove a Grenadier recently it behaved just like my truck, not like my much more nimble Audi allroad. Two different vehicles, two intended purposes. This is something that needs to be highlighted from the get-go for prospective buyers and casual users.

Well, my 12,500lbs Mercedes Unimog U1300L was most certainly designed for the same purpose if not much more severe duty than the Grenadier, and certainly the Dodge 2500, and it returns to center just fine.

The feel of the steering on the Grenadier was a choice. For whatever reason Ineos or Magna or whom ever felt they needed a super stiff steering stabilizer. The reality is if they hadn’t done this and the truck returned to center like any other vehicle people like me wouldn’t complain and nor would you. But due to Ineo’s decision they have one camp complaining and one camp oddly defending.

Literally the first thing I was told about the Grenadier when I went to test drive it was that the steering is “old technology” so it would be durable offroad blah blah blah. This was a preemptive excuse for a complaint they obviously have had many times before.

Oh, and I have been driving Ram 2500’s/3500’s off and on since the 90’s and have never driven one that didn’t self center the steering wheel. I find it odd that anyone suggest they steer dramatically different than most other vehicles. Certainly they aren’t an Audi Q7 or a Volvo whatever etc etc. But I have never daily driven any of those so maybe I don’t know. All I have ever driven daily for the most part have been ancient Offroad trucks. And non of them have self centering issues.