Front drive shaft broken

[255/85]

Some possible options are:

• Get really lucky (as some have) and not suffer any failures “fingers crossed approach”

Somehow we're currently in the "really lucky" category. Of course we're only 4K miles in but the return-to-center function is plenty acceptable now. It seems like the kingpin bushings/bearings have settled in quite well after what felt like very high preload at the start (versus a too heavy steering shock absorber). I'd almost think I could give up some caster to spare the CVs if we decide to lift the truck. Soft squishy mud terrains or low inflation pressures could change that responsiveness, of course, as could higher mileage over rougher terrain. Washboard/corrugations really hammer at steering components. Time will tell.

 

[GN4HIR]

Has anyone seen the new Wolfbox G900 Pro-IGD (Ineos Grenadier Driveshaft)? It is like the standard G900 Pro but comes with a 3rd camera and mounting bracket to aim it directly at the CV boot. It automatically displays and records, in vivid 4K slow motion, the first 2 (up to 8, user selectable) rotations of the driveshaft every time you start and move the vehicle.

I guess it is a good thing I have my stock springs. Hard to believe 2.5" is that big a deal (that's what she said).

I guess my prognostication is eerily accurate. https://wolfbox.com/products/wolfbox-g900tripro-bumper-version-3-channel-rearview-mirror Now who is going to manufacture the bracket?

 

[Dokatd]

I guess my prognostication is eerily accurate. https://wolfbox.com/products/wolfbox-g900tripro-bumper-version-3-channel-rearview-mirror Now who is going to manufacture the bracket?

Nice! But reality is you will likely feel the CV is damaged before you see it through the camera. It's all pitch black down there anyways.

 

[GN4HIR]

Dokatd, Stop being so pragmatic! You are ruining all my fun.

 

[GN4HIR]

Dokatd, Stop being so pragmatic! You are ruining all my fun.

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[Dokatd]

Dokatd, Stop being so pragmatic! You are ruining all my fun.

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Sorry, just in my nature. . I vote you strap that camera directly onto the drive shaft. You want it to rotate with the shaft so it's always got the boot in focus. There, is that better

 

[Brad737]

Anyone know if this is still being sorted anywhere aside from Agile? Really disappointing this issue exists in a truck I thought was built for overloading mods.

 

[anand]

Anyone know if this is still being sorted anywhere aside from Agile? Really disappointing this issue exists in a truck I thought was built for overloading mods.

I know at least one shop in the "region" that has been simply returning vehicles back to the stock ride height. For typical overland travel an increase isn't really necessary

 

[Zimm]

Anyone know if this is still being sorted anywhere aside from Agile? Really disappointing this issue exists in a truck I thought was built for overloading mods.

Wheeling or overlanding? For vehicle travel overseas I’m not sure anything I’ve rented or been handed has even had a true 33.

 

[JKAlpine]

Other than looks or rock crawling, I’m not sure I understand why it needs a lift anyway. It’s very capable in stock configuration.

 

[anand]

Wheeling or overlanding? For vehicle travel overseas I’m not sure anything I’ve rented or been handed has even had a true 33.

Exactly, nearly all the training vehicles at OEX (which are primarily used for military training, so vehicles they would encounter in environments they find themselves in) have a 31/32 on them and are able to traverse all the same terrain (and more) than clients that bring fully built vehicles on 33s/35s.

Tire size matters in some environments, but the actual "overland" world, you don't need massive tires or tons of clearance

 

[Commodore]

This might explain why the pinon angle is so low. It matches the angle of the output shaft of the transfer case.

 

[Tinerfeño]

3 degrees is so little that I very mych doubt it is used in any 4x4 application.
More like 10° - 15° is very common.

 

[Brad737]

This is not my first overland build, sorry if it came off that way. I disagree that a moderate lift and larger tire size are not consequential. Training facilities and private owners have their own reasons for maintaining a stock height, But that’s not the conversation I’m looking for. If you can contribute to my question above please do, which was ”is there any further movement on a drive shaft replacement?” Otherwise, there are other threads for to lift or not to lift

 

[Commodore]

This is not my first overland build, sorry if it came off that way. I disagree that a moderate lift and larger tire size are not consequential. Training facilities and private owners have their own reasons for maintaining a stock height, But that’s not the conversation I’m looking for. If you can contribute to my question above please do, which was ”is there any further movement on a drive shaft replacement?” Otherwise, there are other threads for to lift or not to lift

https://agileoffroad.com/ is working hard on a driveshaft solution. He is also making some ring and pinon gears.

 

[Brad737]

https://agileoffroad.com/ is working hard on a driveshaft solution. He is also making some ring and pinon gears.

Fantastic! I’d heard Agile was trying to sort this issue. Fingers crossed solution is immanent.

 

[Zimm]

This might explain why the pinon angle is so low. It matches the angle of the output shaft of the transfer case.

what type of joints do you see?


Edited due to the fact I’m on an iPad and had multiple posts stuck together like a moron. Or, as a moron, as the case may be.

 

[Zimm]

This is not my first overland build, sorry if it came off that way. I disagree that a moderate lift and larger tire size are not consequential. Training facilities and private owners have their own reasons for maintaining a stock height, But that’s not the conversation I’m looking for. If you can contribute to my question above please do, which was ”is there any further movement on a drive shaft replacement?” Otherwise, there are other threads for to lift or not to lift

It did come off that way, he did contribute, and this doesn’t fix that. I’ll confess I don’t know him, but I have experience with of his associates, and you telling him what OEX’s reasons are is only slightly more entertaining than telling him to move along.

 

[Commodore]

what type of joints do you see?


Edited due to the fact I’m on an iPad and had multiple posts stuck together like a moron. Or, as a moron, as the case may be.

Those are U Joints and not CV's but many attempts have been made to develop a double cardon style driveshaft then they have been met with harmonic issues.

 

[Brad737]

It did come off that way, he did contribute, and this doesn’t fix that. I’ll confess I don’t know him, but I have experience with of his associates, and you telling him what OEX’s reasons are is only slightly more entertaining than telling him to move along.

I wrote “have their own reason.” If your gonna weigh into dissenting, I’d recommend you at least get it right. Comprehension is meaningful when trying to make a point. Not sure what you’re trying to achieve here with me….