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Fitting Ineos side steps

Hicarus

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SIDE STEPS.




Like many of us, my Station Wagon came without the side steps, these being promised for later. A month later as it turned out. So the I got the welcome call, “Come & collect”.

Collect because I had already decided to fit them myself. Having looked at them on a Belstaff model in the showroom (carefully), they can’t be all that had to mount, surely. What I hadn’t reckoned on was the aftermath of my sepsis attack which has left me with carpal tunnel syndrome. - crap grip & no strength.

Self fit because after years with Series and Defender, corrosion protection has become almost an instinct. All non-visible bits including nuts & bolts got a liberal dose of Bilt-Hamer Dynax S50.

So, these things come in a box each, one for each side – yes, they’re handed. The boxes are about 6ft (1.8m) long and won’t fit in the back of a Gren without rear seats down & front seat forward. Very helpful agents offered to remove them from the boxes and help me stow.

In each box is one step, well and truly wrapped in bubble wrap and a made-up foam box around the step and each mount. There are then two boxes which were oddly light. The fixings (8 x 10mm bolts, 4 x 10mm nuts, 3 x 12 mm bolts & 10 x 18mm dia ring washers) were in a poly bag sellotaped to the larger box. There are just enough, no spares, none for the floor. The two boxes? Empty, pure packing!

Also in each main box are two papers, one an extensive Certificate of Conformity, the other a single A4 sheet. The Fitting Instructions. Fitting Instructions? A ‘Q’ code on this A4 sheet & words saying “Thank you for buying”. And all the Q code does is take you to the Grenadier website. Bah! Instructions I could not find.

The step itself is a 60mm diameter thin wall tube bent at both ends with fabricated welded attachments near each end and one somewhat off centre toward the rear. The front mount with four bolts into captive (welded) nuts, and back with four bolts & nuts both onto the body mounted plates. These need 15mm spanners & sockets. The centre mount has three captive (welded) nuts in the chassis with bolts needing an 18mm spanner/socket. All appear to be coated with a thin powder coat.

Fitting was a doddle – or it would have been with two working hands. Each step is about 15 kilo, more than I could lift, hold & bolt. So I dug out a screw jack, jacked one end up, slack fitted two bolts and repeated that at the other. With the whole thing floppy, the centre mount was easy… on the off side (RHD) that is. The near side had a problem where the side bolt hole was out-of-place with the captive nut in the chassis wall. Drill, burr and a dose of crude language solved that. But, on both sides, the chassis mount is not neat, not well made. There is an angled gap where the side bolt won’t allow the under bolts to flush the bracket plate with the chassis. Leaves a nice rust generating mud trap.

Then it’s just welly up the bolts and you’ve got a step. Total time was 3 hours for the lot, both sides, and probably less for someone with two working hands!

Rather than bash &/or scratch the steps before I could use them I left the packing on the step runner, removing it as the last job. Proved no great problem, in fact probably saved some scratches when I got cocky on the second step, when I thought I knew it all, and the thing fell off the jack.




I’m left with a puzzle, though. Add up all the bolts - 4 front, 4 rear, 3 centre for both sides – I make that 22. OK, so why did they include 20 ring washers of 18mm internal diameter? Biggest bolt is 12mm, rest are 10mm. Dunno……. Any suggestions? I’ve ignored them & it seems to work.

And if you’ve just bought these steps post purchase for around £800, I’d be rather peeved at the shortcomings.
 

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Monday my sidestep will be assembled at the dealer. 8 weeks after pick up. And maybe I can pickup the original crossbar.
 
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Maybe the extra washers are for adjusting the position if the steps don't line up perfectly
 

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Maybe the extra washers are for adjusting the position if the steps don't line up perfectly
Sorry, Lightning, they can't be as 'adjusters' or distance washers. They're 18mm id and 10mm thick. Even with the rather crude fabrication of these side steps (front to rear pads on mine are 4º out of true, about 6mm side-to-side), there isn't enough space to squash them in. Besides, there's only 20 of them for a total of 24 bolts....... Mine are sitting in the Grenadier Spares box, just waiting.
 
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Just installed my Side Runners. 1 guy, about 2 hours. The QR code was also a bad link for me, but it didn't really require any instructions (other than the 2 extra mystery washers).

Tools needed: 13mm (or was it 15mm?) and 19mm socket/ratchet, matching spanners. I didn't have a socket big enough for the 19mm bolts but made do with just a spanner wrench.

The packaging (filler boxes) was all I needed for creating a resting point for the runners before bolting it up and the big box became a nice clean mat for lying on next to the vehicle. I would recommend dry-fitting the 4 forward bolts as either road grime or the powder coating made the first few twists tricky. I also had 2 extra washers per side so 2 of the 4 nut/bolt combos (aft) got double washers. Otherwise it was really straight-forward and it worked best to start every bolt before tightening to insure the holes lined up cleanly. Keeping the bubble wrap on the runners during install was a great suggestion @Hicarus. The family is much happier entering the vehicle now!
 

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SIDE STEPS.




Like many of us, my Station Wagon came without the side steps, these being promised for later. A month later as it turned out. So the I got the welcome call, “Come & collect”.

Collect because I had already decided to fit them myself. Having looked at them on a Belstaff model in the showroom (carefully), they can’t be all that had to mount, surely. What I hadn’t reckoned on was the aftermath of my sepsis attack which has left me with carpal tunnel syndrome. - crap grip & no strength.

Self fit because after years with Series and Defender, corrosion protection has become almost an instinct. All non-visible bits including nuts & bolts got a liberal dose of Bilt-Hamer Dynax S50.

So, these things come in a box each, one for each side – yes, they’re handed. The boxes are about 6ft (1.8m) long and won’t fit in the back of a Gren without rear seats down & front seat forward. Very helpful agents offered to remove them from the boxes and help me stow.

In each box is one step, well and truly wrapped in bubble wrap and a made-up foam box around the step and each mount. There are then two boxes which were oddly light. The fixings (8 x 10mm bolts, 4 x 10mm nuts, 3 x 12 mm bolts & 10 x 18mm dia ring washers) were in a poly bag sellotaped to the larger box. There are just enough, no spares, none for the floor. The two boxes? Empty, pure packing!

Also in each main box are two papers, one an extensive Certificate of Conformity, the other a single A4 sheet. The Fitting Instructions. Fitting Instructions? A ‘Q’ code on this A4 sheet & words saying “Thank you for buying”. And all the Q code does is take you to the Grenadier website. Bah! Instructions I could not find.

The step itself is a 60mm diameter thin wall tube bent at both ends with fabricated welded attachments near each end and one somewhat off centre toward the rear. The front mount with four bolts into captive (welded) nuts, and back with four bolts & nuts both onto the body mounted plates. These need 15mm spanners & sockets. The centre mount has three captive (welded) nuts in the chassis with bolts needing an 18mm spanner/socket. All appear to be coated with a thin powder coat.

Fitting was a doddle – or it would have been with two working hands. Each step is about 15 kilo, more than I could lift, hold & bolt. So I dug out a screw jack, jacked one end up, slack fitted two bolts and repeated that at the other. With the whole thing floppy, the centre mount was easy… on the off side (RHD) that is. The near side had a problem where the side bolt hole was out-of-place with the captive nut in the chassis wall. Drill, burr and a dose of crude language solved that. But, on both sides, the chassis mount is not neat, not well made. There is an angled gap where the side bolt won’t allow the under bolts to flush the bracket plate with the chassis. Leaves a nice rust generating mud trap.

Then it’s just welly up the bolts and you’ve got a step. Total time was 3 hours for the lot, both sides, and probably less for someone with two working hands!

Rather than bash &/or scratch the steps before I could use them I left the packing on the step runner, removing it as the last job. Proved no great problem, in fact probably saved some scratches when I got cocky on the second step, when I thought I knew it all, and the thing fell off the jack.




I’m left with a puzzle, though. Add up all the bolts - 4 front, 4 rear, 3 centre for both sides – I make that 22. OK, so why did they include 20 ring washers of 18mm internal diameter? Biggest bolt is 12mm, rest are 10mm. Dunno……. Any suggestions? I’ve ignored them & it seems to work.

And if you’ve just bought these steps post purchase for around £800, I’d be rather peeved at the shortcomings.
the weblink also didn't work for me, worse the front mounting bolts did not fit into the premounted nuts
 
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