) and they were very helpful, plus just down the road from me. Sadly no sales dept from 2025 just service.
(TIC).From the SMMT website (which does not tally with above)
Still shows on the Dealer location page - so must have been last minute.
I have to agree with the capital layout was significant and you need to back it up with sales. I know here in the states that the talk of shared locations with existing brands was a hard no. So many of dealers needed to build separate showrooms which we all can agree is capital intensive. I also believe the early response from prospective buyers may have driven Ineos to make some early missteps. With that being said, the US is seeing more and more buyers step up to plate as the vehicle is showing up on the street.
I’ve just seen my an email from my local Dealer, Bowker Ribble Valley, advising they will cease representing Ineos from 31 December. What is going on?
Makes me cry when I look at how much mines worth on Auto trader. Secondhand ones are an absolute bargain.
Most of the Ineos dealers are shared with other brands here in the UK too. I think Ineos are not incentivising the dealers enough to make it worth while with so many initial problems.
Just been looking myself. Huge loss to try and sell.
Agree 100%...makes me wonder where INEOS is heading....
For the US a Grenadier price of 70k would likely still be out of reach as an "affordable" daily driver for those making under $100k (USD). Was the target buyer always an income over 100+ or is that new? My assumption was that Ineos put a handle in the 80's based on profitability and the result of not fully understanding the cost to build a Gen 1 car of this type. While that might be true I'm now wondering if mid stream they realized that there was more money to be made abandoning "purpose built" and moving to the lux semi-outdoor enthusiast.
For me I felt at 60k it could be an extra car...at 100k it crossed a threshold and fell into a different level of things (991 track car, a G-Wagon, big ass Yellowstone pick up truck???). Would INEOS have made things more interesting if the target was "extra car" vs wherever they are heading now? Age old question I suppose but maybe a strategy of lower price, targeting the extra car buyer, and provide a wide range of features (mall to rock crawler) would be interesting to have modeled.
In the US, I'm seeing discounted 2024 Grenadiers (Field and Trial's), which is normal for the average auto manufacturer given the pending 25 models. With 25's similar to 24's and so many on the lot I wonder if the discussion around the table at Ineos is to stretch out the shortage to clean up old inventory while re-brand the 25's into a new purpose (just changing the marketecture). I would not be surprised if 2025's delivered are just orders placed and very little inventory of 25's on hand. If local US 2024 inventory is still at the same levels as now then IDOH is nuts for dealers in the US which own/fiance the inventory. Would love to be in that meeting where INEOS is pitching to a new dealer
just rambling
I wonder a campaign in US that shows the price would be beneficial since the assumption that it is more expensive than it is. I'm seeing lease deals in my different feeds which a portion of the population likes leases.Agree 100%...makes me wonder where INEOS is heading....
For the US a Grenadier price of 70k would likely still be out of reach as an "affordable" daily driver for those making under $100k (USD). Was the target buyer always an income over 100+ or is that new? My assumption was that Ineos put a handle in the 80's based on profitability and the result of not fully understanding the cost to build a Gen 1 car of this type. While that might be true I'm now wondering if mid stream they realized that there was more money to be made abandoning "purpose built" and moving to the lux semi-outdoor enthusiast.
For me I felt at 60k it could be an extra car...at 100k it crossed a threshold and fell into a different level of things (991 track car, a G-Wagon, big ass Yellowstone pick up truck???). Would INEOS have made things more interesting if the target was "extra car" vs wherever they are heading now? Age old question I suppose but maybe a strategy of lower price, targeting the extra car buyer, and provide a wide range of features (mall to rock crawler) would be interesting to have modeled.
In the US, I'm seeing discounted 2024 Grenadiers (Field and Trial's), which is normal for the average auto manufacturer given the pending 25 models. With 25's similar to 24's and so many on the lot I wonder if the discussion around the table at Ineos is to stretch out the shortage to clean up old inventory while re-brand the 25's into a new purpose (just changing the marketecture). I would not be surprised if 2025's delivered are just orders placed and very little inventory of 25's on hand. If local US 2024 inventory is still at the same levels as now then IDOH is nuts for dealers in the US which own/fiance the inventory. Would love to be in that meeting where INEOS is pitching to a new dealer
just rambling
Is it worth upgrading to 2025? even if there are changes. Is it worth the extra investment to upgrade? Would it be better just modify our own vehicles after the warranty ends. Tbh, electrification of all new cars is coming and the government is gonna tax us to death until we make the switch.
