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2023 Ineos Grenadier review

Not only does it live up to the original Land Rover Defender brief, the Grenadier goes above and beyond but it's not perfect.

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image added. @Stu_Barnes

 

[jamesfielding]

2023 Ineos Grenadier review

Not only does it live up to the original Land Rover Defender brief, the Grenadier goes above and beyond but it's not perfect.

www.carexpert.com.au

Great read, thank you for posting

 

[JOB]

2023 Ineos Grenadier review

Not only does it live up to the original Land Rover Defender brief, the Grenadier goes above and beyond but it's not perfect.

www.carexpert.com.au

That sounds resoundingly positive. For me, I'm sure the steering will feel a lot more accurate than the recirculating ball set up in my now 400tkm old Mercedes W123!

 

[Steve.B]

CarExpert
I am a bit late.

 

[Norville]

After skimming I we the article I'm most interested in the steering (wish they'd announce the Feb US test drives) in hopes it's not over-bearing. Also, wonder what they mean the overhead panel is flimsy / feels like it could easily be torn off.

Interesting they said emergency braking would be in place for 2024. So curious what else is on deck for next year.

 

[trobex]

RHD Footrest remains a problem in production vehicles by the looks of it. That coupled with the windscreen wiper issue reeks of LHD design engineers ignoring the RHD market... seems odd they didn't tackle both of these known issues from the test vehicles as they have been around for more than a year... plenty of time to fix these properly.

I hope the AUS batch has an overhead panel that is 'fixed' ie as tight as those security screens can hold!

Either way, it seems like this vehicles release will be a big success and ill deal with these RHD design flaws anyway because the truck is capable and fits my needs!

 

[Jeremy996]

That was fun - a good read. As I have spent about an hour in the vehicle on various off road test drives, I can firmly say the raised footrest was of no consequence to me and that the wipers were fine - it rained at Newark!

I'm intrigued that they gave it a 9 for running costs; the Facebook whiners have been making lots of noise about the fuel consumption; I suppose comparing like for like helps

 

[BD1]

Very positive, especially from a US perspective. I am pretty sure they will fix 'niggling' quality issues quickly - certainly by 2024 (which is the earliest I expect US deliveries).

 

[Stu_Barnes]

If they made such a point of the window wipers sweep I'm sad they didn't post a photo.

Maybe an easy fix,

• next sized up blade replacement
• assuming its a spline drive? move 1 or 2 splines to raise the park position and further the sweep position towards the A pillar
• it sounds drastic, but I've bent wiper arms in the past a few degrees to get what I wanted.....

Just a few ideas.

They seem to like the Grenadier more than Top Gear!

 

[bemax]

If they made such a point of the window wipers sweep I'm sad they didn't post a photo.

Maybe an easy fix,

• next sized up blade replacement
• assuming its a spline drive? move 1 or 2 splines to raise the park position and further the sweep position towards the A pillar
• it sounds drastic, but I've bent wiper arms in the past a few degrees to get what I wanted.....

Just a few ideas.

They seem to like the Grenadier more than Top Gear!

I think so to. Every balanced reporting journalist needs some negative points to show he reports balanced. If those are the negative points I am happy!

 

[BD1]

They seem to like the Grenadier more than Top Gear!

Yes - and a much more comprehensive review all around.

 

[Chris]

Thanks for posting that

 

[joejet]

If they made such a point of the window wipers sweep I'm sad they didn't post a photo.

Maybe an easy fix,

• next sized up blade replacement
• assuming its a spline drive? move 1 or 2 splines to raise the park position and further the sweep position towards the A pillar
• it sounds drastic, but I've bent wiper arms in the past a few degrees to get what I wanted.....

Just a few ideas.

They seem to like the Grenadier more than Top Gear!

you can see the problem here, looks more like the wiper mount meeds moving over

 

[Satoshi]

Globally pleased by the review. However wondering about some stuffs, they do link an accessories presentation by the end of the article.
Went through it, most of the said accessories aren't available in the web configurator (like the rock sliders). Is that an intended thing? FOMO

 

[DaveB]

That sounds resoundingly positive. For me, I'm sure the steering will feel a lot more accurate than the recirculating ball set up in my now 400tkm old Mercedes W123!

The steering in my Mercedes is so over assisted I always struggle when I get in another car.

 

[bemax]

The steering in my Mercedes is so over assisted I always struggle when I get in another car.

He’s back
Hopefully your time out has been nice.

 

[DaveB]

That was fun - a good read. As I have spent about an hour in the vehicle on various off road test drives, I can firmly say the raised footrest was of no consequence to me and that the wipers were fine - it rained at Newark!

I'm intrigued that they gave it a 9 for running costs; the Facebook whiners have been making lots of noise about the fuel consumption; I suppose comparing like for like helps

Most of the Facebook posters have absolutely no idea what they are talking about.
I saw some goose who expected it to be 6l/100km in a modern designed vehicle.
I assumed he didn't understand the aerodynamics of a 2.7 tonne brick outhouse.

 

[DaveB]

Interview with Justin Hocevar on Ineos and the Grenadier

Former Renault Australia boss Justin Hocevar takes on his greatest challenge yet – introducing unorthodox challenger brand Ineos and the Grenadier

www.whichcar.com.au

 

[emax]

RHD Footrest remains a problem

I can only 'remain' a problem it it is a problem at all. As things stand most of us feel comfortable with it.

That coupled with the windscreen wiper issue reeks of LHD design engineers ignoring the RHD market...

The windshield wipers are arranged individually for LHD and RHD. So it seems to me rather that RHD/LHD peculiarities have actually been taken care of.

But this could mean that the unwiped area appears accordingly on the left side.

 

[joejet]

I can only 'remain' a problem it it is a problem at all. As things stand most of us feel comfortable with it.


The windshield wipers are arranged individually for LHD and RHD. So it seems to me rather that RHD/LHD peculiarities have actually been taken care of.

But this could mean that the unwiped area appears accordingly on the left side.

Wish they went for the 3 wipers like the FJ.