Good to hear. Another issue will be whether to get rid of the Rebel, or hold onto it for dog walking and trips to Home Depot for mulch. I guess I will see what the dealer would give me for it in trade. Thanks for your input.
I think whatever the floor issue is can be sorted with aftermarket mats or carpet. No too worried about that. Someone on here posted that the switchgear was cheap and flimsy...that's not good if true.Well said.
The rubber mats are working well in my Trialmaster to catch the unwanted and stop the slip-and-slide factor...happy motoring
Not my impression - it is what it is, functional , lightweight , should last OK unless one is clumsy.
When you do try if you grab the locking device that is protruding outwards, lift it upwards and the inner cavity moves up roughly the required amount of 2 to 3mm...only on the backside but it works its way down again...I would think that is where Ineos will be looking... realigning and reseal
The only button I regularly press on the centre control stack is the auto stop-start. So I expect all the other buttons and knobs will last forever.
Just for others reading, trobex‘s experience is not universal; I like all the plastics used, theres no warping of dash plastics (in the 4 grenadiers Ive used, seen more), I like the solid feel of the transfer case lever, steering wheel adjustment is good, although could be a little longer in reach, my fuel filler flaps have been fine, now 5 months in, but I can see how they could sag, basic cockpit design I think is excellent, way above other usedul vehicles and many cars too. The footrest is definitely a characteristic, I dont love it, I dont hate it, it is way better than a defender handbrake.
Maybe that will become permanently broken in the off position
Hey James you may have tag me wrong a little butI agree with your first paragraph generally as most of us here are getting out the vehicle and it's all subjective. What I actually mean is the design intent and layout functionality of many $20K cars is simply better than the arrangement of the Grens. Rigidity/Sturdiness of the Gren however in my view is excellent. I don't think the Gren suffers from weak or poor quality plastics, but it does suffer in both finished form and function (warped plastics and unusable storage and "gloss" finishes...). Still love the truck though!
Well that explains a lot! Been driving a '22 Tiguan while waiting for the G - she's zippy for sure! Will miss her!
1) I absolutely disagree on that. Plastics in premium cars are now almost always just apparently of 'high quality', obtained with surface coatings that are soft and pleasant to the touch for the short time beyond which they become sticky and embarrassing. I can bring evidence of this on Porsche, Audi, Mercedes etc... The (relatively few) plastics on the Grenadier don't look 'luxury' but are certainly substantial and durable, as a off road needs. The gaps between the parts do not concern primary elements such as the dashboard but the underseat carters etc, which are easily removable...
Re: the plastics. The only plastics I find unacceptable - be it in a $70,000 car or in a $50,000 car - are in the very back of the car, where there are two plastic "doors" to little storage cubbies. One is on your left as you are looking into the back of the vehicle (behind the left rear wheel-well), and one is on the large rear door (where the little pop-down table would go if you ordered one). Both of these are the cheapest plastics I have ever seen in any vehicle, maybe ever. The one on the rear door is worse than the one behind the left wheel-well. It is absurdly flimsy, and the little dials you turn to fasten or unfasten it are borderline useless. The plastic fasteners for this little plastic door are pathetic. In stunning contrast, the rear doors of the Grenadier open and close with a tremendous sense of quality. Of course, the rear doors are far more important than those little plastic cubby-doors, but I was really surprised at just how bad the plastic was in these two spots.
I agree - steering is fine ( more on that later ) and it drives well and is solid and not easily unsettled on the road for such a big vehicle - but it is heavy and that's something to consider on small twisty road - the six BMW engine is smooth but the transmission seems to have some minor vibrations at certain RPM - it easily catches up in traffic - nothing new here , the petrol six was a production offering in the Defender when BMW owned Landrover - like having an old Defender with 7 people sitting in it before you get in ( Defender is almost 700Kg / 1500lbs lighter ) - 90 L/ 24 US gal is too small for places like Australia and Africa but that could be overcome - parking in tight spaces is possible but a bit of a challenge - but the mirrors are good and you can easily see down the side of the vehicle - the reversing camera is woeful , small and unclear - a decent two position camera on a full split of the infotainment screen would have made such a difference and could have been offered as an option - one camera looking backwards - on as default and one looking down from the top of the rear ( from reverse ) - so now i park nose in and its actually better to see - parking sensors seem to have a delay as you transition from forward and reverse etc - driving vision is good as you can generally see all around ( as the old defender is ) - i enjoy driving the car especially in a heavy traffic environment as the auto is so smooth and allows great control when you creep and the vision is great - the fit and finish is not so great but is functional and really what i expected but let down by some flimsy plastic parts - could be better
My safari windows rattle on the hinge driving over potholes. I’ve fixed this myself using a piece of rubber foam adhesive on the hinge. It’s perfect now.
My '82 Porsche 928 cost more than a house when it was new, probably double an average house.
