It is very useful on winter conditions on road. Also Torsen diff is great. Somehow I just happen to know ...The traction control or brake traction control will work both on and off road, but probably most useful off road.
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It is very useful on winter conditions on road. Also Torsen diff is great. Somehow I just happen to know ...The traction control or brake traction control will work both on and off road, but probably most useful off road.
Except that, with locking diffs, you really do not need any of these systems in an off-road situation ("IF" you know how to drive off-road!)..... Yust sayin'.... We got on perfectly well before these electronic "nannys" were invented...... (again, "IF" you know how to drive off road). Sadly, here in the US, I see lots of people (Not all: don't get offended unless you are one of them!) buying Jeeps, throwing big tires and lots of "stuff" on them and approaching every off road obstacle with the "hold my beer and watch this" attitude of "Maximum revs wins".........A note on Robert Peppers video and his statements about the weak BTC of the Grenadier.
I asked him in the comments "What do you think how the Grenadier would perform in this company with an improved BTC? At least I feel there is some potential here." To my surprise he answered pretty quickly "Better BTC is definitely the single biggest improvement area for the Grenadier! Employ some Toyota engineers".
So, for me it's clear, the Grenadier really needs a better fine tuned BTC.
But: is that not a Discovery 1: If so, it did not have Traction control! Just a good old center differential lock!It is very useful on winter conditions on road. Also Torsen diff is great. Somehow I just happen to know ...
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This is really best suited for on-road use where the factory ESC is more than adequate. 'So, for me it's clear, the Grenadier really needs a better fine tuned BTC.
Agree here 100%!In my thinking TC is a good feature which basically doesn't add cost because it uses the existing mechanics but at same time is fairly adequate for most people in reasonbla conditions. But in no means it can't be compared to a mechanical differential lock that can provide true maximum traction. If you try to ascent a steep hill with obstacles no TC (so far) can outperform differential locks. TC also wears brake pads at terrible rate if used agressively. Fast response of TC may also stress axle mechanics due to shocks. Therefore it may be wise to keep the response at reasonable level.
That is a very interesting D1. I love it!!!It is very useful on winter conditions on road. Also Torsen diff is great. Somehow I just happen to know ...
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