Black Sheep Inovations

[ED Mulrenin]

Standard 265 70 17s but 18 would make no difference

Thanks That's interesting. In other words, the tire size does not change the height of the vehicle at all?

 

[AnD3rew]

Thanks That's interesting. In other words, the tire size does not change the height of the vehicle at all?

They will make a small difference the 18s are very slightly talker than the 17s

 

[MrMike]

Thanks That's interesting. In other words, the tire size does not change the height of the vehicle at all?

Between the 2 sizes there is 1 inch in hight, so 25mm not a big difference but it depends on what you are using the vehicle for. I personally have the 17s as they are readily available. You also do get more sidewall with the 17s and most prefer them for off roading.

 

[DaBull]

Between the 2 sizes there is 1 inch in hight, so 25mm not a big difference but it depends on what you are using the vehicle for. I personally have the 17s as they are readily available. You also do get more sidewall with the 17s and most prefer them for off roading.

The fitted tire heights is actually only 1/2" or 11mm higher on the 18 rims vs the 17 rims. To determine the extra height the Grenadier sits off the ground you have to take 1/2 of those measurements, which shows the vehicle height difference is just 1/4" or 5.5mm higher on the 18 rims vs the 17 rims with the tires on them that Ineos has specified. (Note: I obtained those measurements by plugging them into a tire calculator). DaBull

 

[MrMike]

The fitted tire heights is actually only 1/2" or 11mm higher on the 18 rims vs the 17 rims. To determine the extra height the Grenadier sits off the ground you have to take 1/2 of those measurements, which shows the vehicle height difference is just 1/4" or 5.5mm higher on the 18 rims vs the 17 rims with the tires on them that Ineos has specified. (Note: I obtained those measurements by plugging them into a tire calculator). DaBull

See my previous post with tyre comparison picture

 

[DaBull]

See my previous post with tyre comparison picture

See my previous post with tyre comparison picture

Hi MrMike,

I went back and looked at your posted tire comparison picture, it is correct for comparing a 265 to a 225 aspect ratio tires, however the two different aspect ratio tires being offered on the Grenadier are 265 and 255.

I did look up the Bridgestone tires and the difference in height between the one for the 17” rim and 18” rim is 11 mm or .44” higher in diameter on the 18” rims.

Interestingly, in regard to the BF Goodrich KO2’s, the 18” ones are higher in diameter by 25.4 mm or 1” over the 17” tires.

You would need to take one/half of those tire differences to see what impact they would have on ground clearance.

DaBull

 

[MrMike]

Hi MrMike,

I went back and looked at your posted tire comparison picture, it is correct for comparing a 265 to a 225 aspect ratio tires, however the two different aspect ratio tires being offered on the Grenadier are 265 and 255.

I did look up the Bridgestone tires and the difference in height between the one for the 17” rim and 18” rim is 11 mm or .44” higher in diameter on the 18” rims.

Interestingly, in regard to the BF Goodrich KO2’s, the 18” ones are higher in diameter by 25.4 mm or 1” over the 17” tires.

You would need to take one/half of those tire differences to see what impact they would have on ground clearance.

DaBull

My bad, I need to wear my glasses more often

 

[alexandruast]

Guys, can you please help me install the Autoterm heater with your kit? The kit came with no instructions and there are no tutorials whatsoever on any site. It seems that no matter how I try to fit the plate, it doesn't work without serious cutting and drilling. Too bad I waited two months for the package to arrive and already ordered the Autoterm heater the same day I placed your order, so I am unable to return it if the kit is not updated for the Grenadier production model.
Here are some pics:



Required cutting is going through at least two spot welds:

 

[Mitchell300]

Glad to see you got it sorted, as per you’re post in thread 'Ad Blue bypass'
https://www.theineosforum.com/threads/ad-blue-bypass.12414288/post-1333283925

 

[alexandruast]

Glad to see you got it sorted, as per you’re post in thread 'Ad Blue bypass'
https://www.theineosforum.com/threads/ad-blue-bypass.12414288/post-1333283925
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I had to completely redesign the moumt plate and cut the vehicle
Some clarifications/instructions would be of great help

 

[internal]

I thought the Black sheep solution had the heater where the jack is. I'm curious to hear about your experiences with the heater and the installation location: An Autoterm heater is definitely on my list.

If you could perhaps post a few more pictures of the fuel connection, the fresh air intake and where you place the control panel, that would be great!

 

[alexandruast]

I thought the Black sheep solution had the heater where the jack is. I'm curious to hear about your experiences with the heater and the installation location: An Autoterm heater is definitely on my list.

If you could perhaps post a few more pictures of the fuel connection, the fresh air intake and where you place the control panel, that would be great!

It's impossible for the heater to fit there, Black Sheep uses that space for ducting and for relocation of the SCR brain. The heater goes in the same place as mine, but with the bracket reversed. I decided to go my way with the installation. There is no fresh air intake(cabin side) in my setup, only combustion intake and exhaust goes outside.
The control can be mounted pretty anywhere.
I did not tap into the fuel tank, I will use a 4L poly bladder in the empty space already there, see photo.
When I'll install the brown Davis aux tank, I shall tap that one.