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2024 ADAS Issue and Work Around (USA)

Ccam

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Ok, View attachment 7836325View attachment 7836326I just pulled it. The good news is the annoying sound stops.

The bad news is the dash lights up like a Christmas Tree. Looks like it also disables the auto break. Also, the Centre screen displays an annoying warning.

I'm going to put it back, but Ineos please fix this! I shouldn’t have to decide between basic safety features or a sound like I’ve left my indicator on.
Thanks for the work Brother!
 

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Wait, the on-road demo trucks DON'T have ADAS ... Lol. And let me guess ... nobody is getting hurt, nobody is dying, and NOBODY is complaining, "nice truck but I want ADAS!" Nobody. Proof enough.

Well I'll stick with my order for now but INEOS really should be embarrassed by their lack of empathy for what a "built on purpose" buyer wants and does not want.

Man, they got so much else right and this falls squarely in the, "less computers" ethos they were selling us.
I’m beginning to think Ineos went through Hell to get a vehicle past US Customs. They stopped the short roof rack. I’ll bet the safety luvin cradle to grave government Arse wipers in DC had a lot to do with mandatory ADAS.
 
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I’m beginning to think Ineos went through Hell to get a vehicle past US Customs. They stopped the short roof rack. I’ll bet the safety luvin cradle to grave government Arse wipers in DC had a lot to do with mandatory ADAS.
Why doesn’t the new Landcruiser do this?
 

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So, in mine, the speed warning clicks you get for speeding are independent of the single click for a speed limit change.
Looking at it this morning, there is a separate slider to turn off the speed change warning. Mine is off.
 

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As far as I know, this is a USA Only Issue and Specific to the ADAS System in the 2024 Model. Feel free to skip the Background editorial and go to the Solution!

Background

I was lucky enough to have an early delivery and picked my Grenadier up on Nov 27th. Scottish White (Love it!), Leather, 17” Alloys, BFG K02s, Rock Sliders, +++. What follows is not about the very long list of things I love about the Grenadier, it’s about one factory configuration Issue that makes me (almost) hate it.

This issue, and it is unfortunately ‘by design,’ is part of the newly released 2024 ADAS System includes Lane Departure, Traffic Sign Recognition, Intelligent Speed Assist, Over Speed Alert, and a few other things, are ON by default and must be turned OFF deep in the Display Menu ‘every time’ you restart the vehicle.

It’s hard to explain without experiencing it but the warning Beeps, Clicks and Chimes are beyond annoying. For example, the clicking for Intelligent Speed Assist starts when you hit the stated speed limit in most cases. The amount of beeping in this vehicle is beyond anything I've ever experienced other than an ICU room in a hospital.

As a Public Service Announcement (PSA), I would encourage you to drive it when you go to pick it up.

When I say down deep in the Menu, this is the actual process to turn OFF the Over Speed Alert (Note: My Car starts up in Carplay Mode):

CarPlay > Ineos > Settings > Vehicle Settings > Vehicle Functions > ADAS Systems > Intelligent Speed Assist > Over Speed Warning > Over Speed Warning OFF > CarPlay

That is 10 Menu Clicks. Every time you restart the car if you want to turn off Lane Departure, Intelligent Speed Assist, and Over Speed Alert.

For those thinking, ‘This is no big deal, you shouldn’t be driving over the speed limit anyway ….’ Hear me know, believe me later. It is MADDENING. I mainly drive in town, and don’t drive excessively over the speed limit under any circumstances. I’d say speed limit or speed limit +5 MPH, Max. Having alerts going off when you hit the stated speed limit and after, is just wrong in my opinion.

Here is a real-world scenario: You're driving in a 40 MPH Zone .... 39 MPH to 41 MPH. CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK Back down to 40 MPH .... hit 42MPH CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK. Back down to 40 MPH. Speed up to pass a car. CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK. Repeat this scenario on your daily commute. CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK, that's a sound you'll be hearing in your sleep!

I am hoping for a Software Update. However, it says in the Manual that these features can be changed (As described above), but again, not saved after turning off the vehicle. Page 136 in the manual.

Solution
This is the best workaround I have come up with for the ADAS issue related to the constant chiming and clicking when you hit the speed limit and go beyond it. It’s not great, but it’s the best I could figure out until we hopefully get a Software Update.

From the Display: Settings > General > CCI Favourite > Settings-ISA

When you start the vehicle, let the Display cycle up / load. Then hit the Favorite Button on the center console. It will bring up the Settings-ISA Screen. Turn Off Over Speed Warning.

Note 1: If you Unselect ‘Speed Limit Info’ you will have a persistent Orange Icon on the Telltale Display (That’s the name of the small screen in front of the Steering Wheel).
Note 2: You still need to do this every time you start the Vehicle but its way better than the 10 Step approach.

I tried a few other things, including Wade Mode which disables many of these systems, and the Deactivate all ADAS Systems. The issue with both of these options is that they light up the Telltale Display like a Christmas Tree.

Again, I am not posting this because I hate my Grenadier, I love it. I just 100% hate the fact that this feature/lack thereof impacts the driving experience for me.

I would love to hear your thoughts on this.

The first video is configuring the Favorite Button and the second is Start Up / Deactivation.
Hopefully INEOS takes notice and fix it. It's getting attention from reviews on youtube as the most annoying part of the vehicle:
View: https://youtu.be/IzEmPNytM0s?si=3WFwBrpL1K_BFn-q

(start in minute 25:01 to 30:24)
 

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I just saw that. Overall, I thought it was a good review and I felt balanced.
Yes, I think it was a good and honest review. Besides the ADAS grinch, the "bad" stuff is more of a personal preference (like heated seats, Push start and keyless, electric seats) things I personally don't want.
 

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Yes, I think it was a good and honest review. Besides the ADAS grinch, the "bad" stuff is more of a personal preference (like heated seats, Push start and keyless, electric seats) things I personally don't want.
A/C didn't work on mine, wonder if they tried that as looked like snow around. ;)
 

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Mine will not come back on.
It remembers the last speed change warning setting, but resets the overspeed warning back to "on" each cycle.
Same here - not sure why though. Maybe because that's not set to be mandated by the gov. in a few years.
 

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We just turned 3000 miles and are very happy with our Grenadier! The quirks with the software are a slight annoyance but inconsequential compared to all we like about the driving experience and the looks of the Grenadier. However, I do want to change/address the side view mirrors on both driver and passenger sides! I cannot adjust them enough to see near passing vehicles...especially on the driver's side without leaning forward. I think this is something Ineos must address as a safety issue. I welcome suggestions.
 

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I cannot adjust them enough to see near passing vehicles...especially on the driver's side without leaning forward. I think this is something Ineos must address as a safety issue. I welcome suggestions.
Perhaps adjust your seating position? Or add blind spot mirrors to the corners of the normal mirrors
 

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We just turned 3000 miles and are very happy with our Grenadier! The quirks with the software are a slight annoyance but inconsequential compared to all we like about the driving experience and the looks of the Grenadier. However, I do want to change/address the side view mirrors on both driver and passenger sides! I cannot adjust them enough to see near passing vehicles...especially on the driver's side without leaning forward. I think this is something Ineos must address as a safety issue. I welcome suggestions.
Perhaps adjust your seating position? Or add blind spot mirrors to the corners of the normal mirrors
No, the mirrors are poorly positioned. My driver side mirror is pegged to the outermost position, but I still need more adjustability. Typically the plastic housing would have two position clicks, but the Gren only has one. It is the one poor design feature I really dislike.

I have added a round blind spot mirror, but to be honest, I don’t use it. It’s too small so I just triple check with head turns.
 

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No, the mirrors are poorly positioned. My driver side mirror is pegged to the outermost position, but I still need more adjustability. Typically the plastic housing would have two position clicks, but the Gren only has one. It is the one poor design feature I really dislike.

I have added a round blind spot mirror, but to be honest, I don’t use it. It’s too small so I just triple check with head turns.
There's a perfect solution that was popular on Discoweb long time ago.
Buy a RHD left-side mirror, it is convex. Moreover, there's a thread here discussing this mod and where/how to buy.
 

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There's a perfect solution that was popular on Discoweb long time ago.
Buy a RHD left-side mirror, it is convex. Moreover, there's a thread here discussing this mod and where/how to buy.
Ok I just searched for a bit and I'm not finding this thread. Can you post a link?
 
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