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I have the front tow hitch under the flip up number plate. It is an insert in the standard winch mount and is rated at full 3500kg Confirmed it includes all the wiring for the winch and the hardware to retrofit it later Not the wiring for a trailer plug however so you won't be reversing down the...

Thanks for sharing the info. Dumb question, but is it the standard Redraw tow pro, or something specific from Ineos?

Well my fingers are crossed that this payload sticker won't be typical of production North American Grenadiers. Re/ towing ... If this payload rating is somewhat typical then it seems difficult for a Grenadier to achieve its 7,700 lb tow capacity without exceeding its payload rating first, due...

We are getting the Hayman Reece style 2" slide in hitch. Despite mention of 1 7/8" in some places. I am getting one on the front and the back of mine.

You will be better served by crawling under your Gren to take a look. The plastic clip is not suitable for the job and the cable surprisingly close to the t-case front output. I had mine in for the NA hitch update and mentioned it to them, they said they replaced the clip but the tech opted to...

...however, the danger is trusting a rendering that no technically competent persons seems to sign off on before it's uploaded - we've had 3 wheeled vehicles, floating winch recovery kits in the loadspace area and front hitch receivers with winch freespool levers attached, toname but a few.

...$620 then, still a lot cheaper than the current price. As an aside I’ll be interested to see what is the final load rating Ineos give it. Also recent speculation from the dealer is the front hitch may be why my car seems to be stuck in batch and hold at the factory…. Supply issues?? cheers...

Towing Preparation First up the electric brake controller. I decided to go as standard as possible retaining the 13 pin EU trailer plug and getting the Ineos Redarc brake controller kit fitted. The kit was installed by my trusted auto sparky (Schultz Automotive in Willetton for those SOR in...

Fingers crossed ~ hard to see on such a photo but it does look to be marginally up at the front when compared with the rear...

Fitted an Ultimate9 50" light bar over the weekend on the Front Runner3/4 roof rack (space is running out now) Between the with the solar panel asking up the right hand front quadrant, the awning left side, the high lift jack and fold down mount for the UHF 2.2dB aerial when I move it from my...

I just started getting a strange rattle after I drive over a speed bump or other abrupt dip or bump. It sounds like its coming from the front passenger side and even sometimes sounds like it may be in the roof but I didn't have a rack or safari roof. It sounds like when you flick a spring...

Yes - items such as the overhead panel are $0 with the Trial Master and Soft/Hard Pack added. I added the front hitch option as the removable winches would connect into the hitch. I'm doing that in lieu of getting a fixed winch I might never use. Still trying to find out what RooBar IG is...

You should have absolutely no problem towing that; even fully loaded.... Your tongue weight is ~13%, at trailer max it'll be 6,435lbs (1265lb below max towing capacity); theoretical tongue weight at max trailer weight will be 830lbs. Your payload rating will be ~1800lbs, granted that is more so...

I like the built in winch option - but over $4K USD seems a bit high, even the removable winch option that fits into the front hitch plate is a over $3K - there have to be other options out there to consider. I'll go with the front tow mounting plate for now given my need for a winch has yet...

I optioned the front tow hitch so I could add the winch later if I wanted to. The tow hitch comes with all the wiring for the winch, the flip up number plate and the recesses for winch and winch free spool lever At the time it was only an extra $370 now it is $1,320

Today I drove to a trailer dealer and looked at the 2-axle car transport trailers and hooked up the one that fits my size to the trailer hitch. My worries were unfounded. The load floor is 8 cm higher at the front than at the rear. With the large drawbar load of the Grenadier, I can move the...

Great info...(y) how did you confirm the wiring is present? I'm presuming there's no plug as such....

Owl sold lots of the Hammerhead bumper 100% designed and built by CAtuned for several years. Owl no longer sells this bumper and is no longer a dealer for CAtuned products. It doesn't mean they are bad products, they just do not sell them any longer. The lazered Hex pattern in Sheet...

I thought the rear winch was the same as the front but derated due to the load rating of the tow hitch mount.

Understand what you are seeing - perhaps it is a different spec for the US or we allow removable winches over here. Not sure at this point - but interesting we see two different rules out there.

What towbar tongue/shank/receiver are you using there? Can you share some photos too.

how do you get on with the light bar that far back does it shine in the Safari windows

No other winch can attach to the front tow hitch plate if you want a removable winch?

Yes they said not to use the portable winch It does come with all the wiring so i can remove it and mount the permanent winch if needed.

Read what's been said on this forum by Red Winches about using the removeable winch in the front towing plate - it's a no.

i asked this as well the detachable winch Hi Paul, Thank you very much for contacting INEOS Automotive. The rear removable winch weight is 40kg. It can not be used on the front of the vehicle. The rear winch is not a permanent fixture to the vehicle. The high-load auxiliary switch panel is...

How's your GVM going with van attached? I'm very close with van and a set of drawers will just about reach GVM for me. Can recommend Cruisemaster in Brisbane for weighing, great service and right price.

Price has been corrected down to $141,151.87 inc all charges. 1 Vehicle and Powertrain Model Grenadier Station Wagon 5-Seat Trim Trialmaster Edition Engine BMW 3.0L Twin-Turbo Diesel, Straight-Six Engine Diesel Water Separator Transmission 8-Speed Automatic Transmission with Manual 2 Exterior...

Pricing was higher than I expected - my build turned out to be $93K. Their accessory prices are very high - a $950 Rino rack for $2K, Light bar for $1.3K etc - debating about the front trailer plate and rear hitch almost $2k for both - also feels very high. If anyone has thoughts on the...

No other winch, at present, can be installed where the front IG winch is installed from the factory. The reason given by Red Winch is here. In summary:

Hi Kevin Mokracek, There has been at least one forum member who reported sound coming from the steering stabilizer, almost like a bell being struck. Turned out his stabilizer needed replacing. Something to check out. DaBull

I agree for what we do it should be adequate, however, this is the same person that told his wife he needed a 3500 Ram diesel to pull it originally. How do I spin this one 🤔

No other winch options at present, because a standard winch will not fit. Even the Red Winch is a custom size.

Scott, I installed the Red Arc unit from my LR Defender in the Gren in no time thanks to your post. Thank you, I appreciate it! 👍

So high load electrical panel? No Winch, but you got the front hitch for better access when you do add one? I think I'm confused by some of the $0.00 amounts, does that mean its part of a package and there, or that it isn't included? The blue is striking though, it will be very cool looking...

Got it - this is good intel. "2020 GMC Denali was not as solid feeling as the Grenadier." I find this very interesting! I too came from towing an AS with a similar year GMC 2500 with about 990lbs on the tongue. Globetrotter has a heavy tongue as well - about 900-950 lbs. So you are a little...

A lot of caravan parks are starting to demand that they park the van not the owner. Usually have a tractor with the tow hitch on the front.

Hi Yes 100% agree on the weight comment, although you rarely ever winch a vehicle that is on a flat surface and able to move freely. There is usually some additional load which is hard to measure and usually a lot more, or less, than you think. A really important point you have pointed out is...

Shame ~ I'd have preferred it if they'd done the opposite and fixed the vehicle. If there's a way to mount a 5,500kg winch behind the front bumper, and a way to mount a hitch receiver at the rear for a 3,500kg winch, then it should be possible to mount a hitch receiver for a 3,500kg winch at...

Ah yes, LC 80 / 100V8IFS / IG for me. Performs way better than the 100 in most respects. An early adopter here but following since announced. Has it's quirks but a niche vehicle really. I was sold on the axle capacity, GCM, GVM, short overhang and drivetrain. Little disappointed at the...

ScottnAZ ScottnAZ On the Violet/Orange 14AWG Wire = Signal (REDARC Red Wire)….did you mention an alternate solution other than Grenadier recoding the software? Reason is I installed the REDARC using your similar instructions ….. I was getting the blinking green and noticed this...

I think the bars bind on any tight turn. It’s an awful creaking sound when you pull into the refueling stations. In my case, during set up and loading, I just leave the bars unhooked until everything is ready to go and then I do the jacking process to install the bars. Getting the trailer...

I guess towing 3,500 kg behind a vehicle doing 100kmh might be a little different to pushing/maneuvering a 3,500kg load at 5 kmh in front. Less dynamic stress. Rear tow bar & hitch assemblies look something like the picture below (I am sure you know this but others may not) and this would be...

Attended the Brisbane drive day today at "Thunder Park"...Mt Tambourine. Excellent. I'm stoked in anticipation. My dear wife was most impressed at the comfort of the rear passenger seat and the visibility from the driver's seat...though "petite", she could easily see both front corners. The...

Our Airstream is a 25 so tongue weight is high, then add the ProPride! Of course, the weight distribution works well with the short overhang the Grenadier has. I got the front axel of the Ineos back to non hitched height with ease and the rear springs of the Grenadier dropped about 1 1/2”. I...

If you add the current integrated front Red winch at a later stage (purchase from the agent or direct from Red?) would you upgrade the front springs?

I woke up from a dream this morning: So that’s the reason for the delay? The didn’t thought of the right height for the towing hitch, which now is mounted roughly 10 cm over the prescribed height? A feature ordered by presumably over 99 % of the customers stopped the delivery. Ineos Automotive...

No - Ineos are now saying that the front towing plate is not robust enough to use as a front mounting point for the portable winch. They will be saying from this point forward that the portable winch is only to be used on the rear tow hitch. ( In Oz at least)

That is exactly my idea. Unfortunately, I cannot order this front mounted tow hitch in Germany, as it is not approved in Germany. Unfortunately, I can't say anything about the lever.

So I’ve been messing around trying to come up with the best option for a ski rack. I got the Rhino-Rack crossbars and came up with a better mounting bracket solution so the LED light was in front of the bar, I could move it back to the B pillar, and still mount the ski rack above the bar. It’s...

Towing 3100kg van for about 2000klm now, mainly black top B grade roads. Trialmaster diesel, 2 red diamonds on rear springs. Car at 3500kgs with van attached. Towball download 266kgs. Rear dropped 40 to 50mm but suspect that's the soft stage of the tri rate rear spring taking up. I do not use...

Well I'm certainly confused. I relied upon the description for the very purpose of maneuvering vans, trailers etc and having a recovery option with the portable winch. I can understand that a lower load limit may apply with the tow hitch receiver compared to the integrated winch. I now...

extras: Locking front/rear, step rails, saddle leather, luggage net, smoker's package, table in the rear door, storage compartment in the spare wheel, dark windows, red frame with magic mushroom paint, trailer hitch smoker package, I’d like to have an extra socket in the front. need a strong...

It is a pretty important question actually. There are a lot of vehicles available in the market for this price point so why? For me, it is always all about payload and towing numbers. Whatever I drive must be capable of carrying the weight of our weight distribution hitched Airstream trailer. It...

If there isn’t a front hitch in your country I wouldnt stress on it too much. There are more than likely going to be companies making front hitch kits for the grenadier anyway.

Wonderful, thank you. And you're probably correct. I'll just leave this here as we may be hunting down the wrong path... **DIESEL** (from lighterweight to heavierweight based on the increased mass from additional options) Voader - Oudersopzwier; EU spec N1. 5seat, diesel, no winch, 17" alloys...

Just had it confirmed from my dealer that the front tow hitch is NOT to be used as a winch mount. Website will be updated accordingly. Hence from today I have added the mounted winch to my spec.

It's easy to cut and paste the table from the relevant post then to edit click in a cell and you will get a menu that allows you to add rows, columns and headers or delete the table. A couple of blanks in @csjeeper's table filled in below. But its a lot easier to do in excel! Cheers Steve...

Alright, well it looks like you'll have company on the roads. Picking mine up Friday morning. I realize I'm taking a flyer, but life is too short to drive boring cars.

Well said and 100% agree!! This Forum and the support of people genuinely interested in helping others is unmatched in anything else I have experienced in Life. 🙌👏😎

Thanks for all your best wishes, Here is a bit more info on the "Trialmaster" Vin No....1840, Donny Grey, Leather interior, side steps (photos show rock sliders), roof racks, front tow hitch, cargo barrier, picnic table, fitted car seat covers. Waiting on a few accessories to arrive (roof...

Not at present, But its an interesting rabbit hole a few of us are down. My list at present (2 June) is as follows. It also looks like not all codes appear on the B pillar sticker either. Code Description CSC Front Axle Spring Class 1, 1345 - 1417; 27N/mm CSD Front Axle Spring Class 2...

I presume that there will be a weight limit for towing or manoeuvring using the front tow hitch that is below the 3500kg limit of the portable winch. And I guess for self recovery the two recovery points under the bumper will be a stronger option than the front towing interface

Wow, that is a stuff up.

Rudy what you gonna do with that old obsolete 80 series

Hi Scott, thanks for the post of where these wires are. The trigger though does not work to properly trigger brakes. I couldn't tell if someone else already asked this question. The RedArc expects 0volts if not braking and 12v when brake applied. When I measure this, I see something like...

Great information for those of us who work on our trucks. I've been considering a trailer brake controller and the REDARC seems like a good choice.

I have ordered the front mounted tow hitch as below. I assume the lever is to turn the power on for the removable winch??? Anyone know anymore?

Hello Michael, I am interested in an Inky Black Trialmaster with the options below: Safari Windows Privacy Glass Spare Wheel Lockable Storage Box Utility Trim Heated Front Seats Carpet Floor Carpet Mats Class III Tow Hitch Quick Release Tie-Down...

This is correct. We have only tested the portable winch on the rear. We were only recently asked to look at using it on the front and it is a definite no, the front reciver is definitely not robust enough to use the portable winch.

Here is what I've ordered: 01 VEHICLE & POWERTRAIN Engine BMW 3.0L Turbo Gasoline, Straight-Six Engine$0.00 Transmission 8-Speed Automatic Transmission with Manual Override$0.00 02 EXTERIOR Body Color Eldoret Blue (Solid)$580.00 Contrast elements Contrast Roof - Scottish White$1,280.00...

Often amusing at the boat ramp 50 metres down the road from my house. Many caravan parks won't let customers reverse their own caravans in anymore. They all seem to use a simple answer to the problem and the one I went for on mine. Front tow hitch under the hinge up number plate. It also...

Not sure why we can't have the front receiver hitch in the UK? A towball mounted on the front bumper is ideal for manoeuvring trailers into tight spaces. Anyone from Ineos listening?

Another great post . . thanks. I've not long picked up a year old Fieldmaster from Noosa dealer - their demo. Had the spec I wanted and loving it! Last week got the electrics and Towpro installed (SLRV) - took it for a short run on Sunday to get weighed and see how it handled. Really good...

Sounds advice, thanks. Any chance you happen to be dropping your truck off at German Motor Works this week for A/C service? I know those guys and have asked if they are familiar with the trucks, the mentioned they have someone coming in this week for A/C work. The dealer Id be working with...

Most winches out there don't really do what they're supposed to...over extended periods of time. Winches in the 1-2K price bracket are more like toys, designed for a bit of playing with, occasionally. A half decent winch like the WARN 8274 is 3-4k w/o mounting plate, lead etc. I reckon the...

No just the weight of the tow hitch and mounting stuff itself.

I can think of nothing less needed and directly in contrast to the design concept of the Grenadier, then an electric rearview mirror.

@emax: sorry, added some from your list to my list - was less work... and here it is: Code Description Remarks 1 CSC Front Axle Spring Class 1 1345 - 1417; 27N/mm 2 CSD Front Axle Spring Class 2 1417 - 1470 kg; 28,5N7mm 3 CSE Front Axle Spring Class 3 1470 - 1523 kg; 30N/mm 4 CSF...

Question for you: did the red arc activate your braking system? I want to pull a trailer and only need brake lights and blinkers and was trying to figure out if i could just connect a universal 4 pin to these wires? The trailer im looking at has surge brakes on it. Only asking because the...

I'm presuming the front tow hitch is also to enable the listed "optional" portable winch to be readily fitted to the front of the vehicle or the rear hitch as/when required...

I think I read early on that the smokers pack comes at the cost of a cup holder I could be wrong

So you towed the 3500 KG in there and can't use the front hitch to move it out again . Does the welder have to come out or is it mounted onto the fairlead bolts?

I am wondering if getting the front tow hitch would be worth it if you were looking at an aftermarket winch. Whilst I know the above is a render, from the little i have managed to see they both appear to have the same centre bumper section with the swing up number plate. Would be good to get a...

It's across a few threads ~ all worth a general browse: https://www.theineosforum.com/search/534/?q=Front+hitch&o=relevance Note: not currently available on the UK pricelist but hoping it can be changed.

I don’t think having to pay extra for labor is OK either, but in the case of the Grenadier, it’s not as extreme as stated above. There are only a few items such as the roof rack, sliders/steps, and checker plates IIRC, and they are all identified with an asterisk plus their caveat about extra...

...of their products?). Aesthetics are all personal preference, so, take that thought with a grain of salt. I'm also really not a fan of the front hitch receiver, and I'm assuming this is a carryover from their van bumpers, because it seems like that is something many manufacturers do for the...

Yeah, you are right. Let's just say you have a 7,000 pound trailer, and just 10% of that weight is transferred to the vehicle. That's 700 pounds, and that is 100 pounds more than the total payload listed on the door sticker that I posted. So you'd be 100 pounds over payload without a driver or...

Is this a physical limitation or something to do with Australian Standards? I have always thought rear tow assemblies fitted to utes here in Oz look to be over engineered, maybe Ineos found that what was thought appropriate for a worldwide market does not meet some obscure Australian Standard...

Add to mine 17” steel wheels and BFG tyres plus tow hitch. 👍🏼

Jeremy you legend . My Gren has alloy 18 inch wheels wraped in BF rubber .

We still need more data of vehicle OPTIONS from the users below in order to make better sense of any logic. @DCPU ; is yours a 5seater now? And any roof rack, light bar, snorkel, side steps or rock sliders? Would be helpful to know, thanks. @gkhaldi ; do you have alloy or steel wheels? 17" or...

Well I got a call from Magic this morning to say my grenadier was out of production and in batch and hold. Once it’s released, it’s off to the port and on the ship to Australia. Best guess is I’ll be seeing it July depending on how long b&h and shipping takes. And before anyone asks my salent...

Can you give an update on your towing experience pulling the Airstream. It;s about the same size and weight of a trailer I'm contemplating buying. If things work out I may even live in the set up for a couple years traveling around the US. I'm looking at buying a Oliver Legacy II Dry weight...

Hi Jeremy, This is build and configuration list (serial 22XX) "Rough Pack - Differential Locks Front & Rear - BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO2 Tyre "Smooth Pack - Rear-View Camera - Park Assist Front (PDC) - Power Heated Exterior Mirrors - Heated Windscreen Washer Jets - Central Stowage Box...

$85,785 Safari windows, Upgraded electric panel, towing, Front and rear diff lockers. Missing any other ‘gotta-haves, hard to add’ options? I’d like the winch, not sure if I would ever use it. Probably add 3rd party rock sliders with some kind of step. Same with roof rack and Awning, rear...

Notwithstanding it would be a possible to use it on the front attached to a recovery point, a bridle off the recovery points, or a double line pull using both. The biggest limitation out of the box may be the length of power cable to plug in. Perhaps not ideal to some, but if you are actually...

Even though I am only getting the front tow hitch, not the winch, I would also cancel it if we got that silly removable plastic bit I am glad we are still getting the steel bumper and the hinged number plate.