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There is article that came out today that said 50% of electric car owners are planning to move back to ICE when they get a new car
I think they will now focus more on the hydrogen version as it meets the fuel efficient requirements while allowing it to be manufactured on the existing production line.Interesting, there are quite few a news reports from Europe on the Fusiliers contract suspension. Ineos will needs rapidly move to include lighter more efficient cars for long term viability. We only need to look at the U.S. to see how quickly Jeep Gladiator and Bronco peaked and slumped, and how the pick-up market is currently performing. Grenadier being a large expensive vehicle to own in Europe, is becoming more expensive in Australia with new taxes and the US chicken tax on QM this does lead to several questions, once the Ineos enthusiasts, devotees have their vehicles will Ineos see a similar large slump in sales and will Ineos be sustainable without a more affordable, lighter, fuel efficient electric, hybrid or ICE vehicles in its lineup?
I did after 4.5 years on owning a Tesla. It just had too many downsides.There is article that came out today that said 50% of electric car owners are planning to move back to ICE when they get a new car
Shortening the frame is far easier than narrowing the frame as the vehicle would be the same from the A pillar forward, so just shortening it would be far more economical ( cheaper ) making it the equivalent of a previous generation defender 90, we already have 110 and 130 equivalents, and they are great, so bring on the 90.I think they will now focus more on the hydrogen version as it meets the fuel efficient requirements while allowing it to be manufactured on the existing production line.
I am sure they will also do a 2 door shorty and probably pull a 4 cylinder or hybrid motor from BMW???? for that one.
I guess if you can lengthen and shorten the existing frame you can probably also make it narrower.
They could still use the Fusilier design, just not the electric components.
Drop the Fuselier type body on a modified Grenadier frame and reduce the weight by 30%
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Early interview with Toby, the designer, I am sure he said they have engineered it for shorter as well as longer.Shortening the frame is far easier than narrowing the frame as the vehicle would be the same from the A pillar forward, so just shortening it would be far more economical ( cheaper ) making it the equivalent of a previous generation defender 90, we already have 110 and 130 equivalents, and they are great, so bring on the 90.
Are you guys sure about this story? I’m not finding anything else on this - I would have expected some other automotive news source would have picked this up - maybe over the next 48 hours?
Are you guys sure about this story? I’m not finding anything else on this - I would have expected some other automotive news source would have picked this up - maybe over the next 48 hours?
Yeah now that it hit Bloomberg, I’m sure it will blow up quickly and Ineos will have to make a statement. This has to absolutely suck in Graz. Not happy times. I think at this point, they are fishing for Chinese OEM’s.Yes, that is a local/reginal newspaper where Magna Steyr is a very big employer. They often write abount things happening at Magna.
However, inside Ineos no news about that, as well. Whereas the news of the upcoming Fusilier was a big one and made every Ineos employee happy during the internal finacial lockdown.
I'm pretty sure more will come...however, Ineos is not found often in the automotive news in Germany compared to others. Too less relevance, too small sales volume, in the range of the four smallest Chinese car manufacturers Lynk, Nio, Maxus and Aiways
Maybe that will also have an effect on fleet emissions, as the Fusilier can not be used for compensation in the next years
Bloomber wrote "rising borrowing costs"? Interesting....that's what I found in the financial report of 2023, as well. I posted it here..
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