Two inch lift, anybody.

Sela Green · Jan 10, 2024

I'm working with a couple of suppliers to put together a 2" lift. Has this been done or should I keep pushing forward. It will take the Gren out of commission for a couple of weeks but that is OK. How much demand do you think there will be?

anand · Jan 11, 2024

I think it would depend entirely on who the suppliers are, and what the options are.

For example, would it be Eibach style where there are 2 different front spring options (winch or no winch), but only 1 rear spring version?

Or would it be like some of the larger companies in the off road world where there are 3-5 different spring options for front and rear (each) based on overall lift and weight capacity?

Assuming that the 2" lift includes shocks, are they rebuildable? adjustable (dampening, rebound?)? What is their longevity or lifespan in environments with salted roads? What is the shock tuned for (a little of everything, high speed off road, low speed, etc)?

Tazzieman · Jan 11, 2024

Tom Cruise is very interested.

Reducs · Jan 11, 2024

Tazzieman said:
Tom Cruise is very interested.

Nah, he'll HALO in from 30,000' and go through the safari window.

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Sela Green · Jan 11, 2024

After some thought and a little research, I'm going to do mine first, drive it for a month, and then decide if I want to venture into the lift business or pass it off to someone who is interested.

Krabby · Jan 11, 2024

Sela Green said:
After some thought and a little research, I'm going to do mine first, drive it for a month, and then decide if I want to venture into the lift business or pass it off to someone who is interested.

I'm guessing it's an easier said than done enterprise - one well above my paygrade.

stickshifter · Jan 11, 2024

Sela Green said:
I'm working with a couple of suppliers to put together a 2" lift. Has this been done or should I keep pushing forward. It will take the Gren out of commission for a couple of weeks but that is OK. How much demand do you think there will be?

anand said:
I think it would depend entirely on who the suppliers are, and what the options are.

For example, would it be Eibach style where there are 2 different front spring options (winch or no winch), but only 1 rear spring version?

Or would it be like some of the larger companies in the off road world where there are 3-5 different spring options for front and rear (each) based on overall lift and weight capacity?

Assuming that the 2" lift includes shocks, are they rebuildable? adjustable (dampening, rebound?)? What is their longevity or lifespan in environments with salted roads? What is the shock tuned for (a little of everything, high speed off road, low speed, etc)?

I would guess that some folks will jump at it - excited about running larger tires.

I would also guess that others will have questions. In addition to what @anand asked about, I think some people will want to know:

(1) How much testing was done
(2) How big a tire will the lift accommodate without rubbing, and whether a wheel with different backspacing is required to run that larger tire
(3) How does the lift affect handling (especially emergency maneuvers)
(4) Whether other parts are necessary (e.g. adjustable front track bar, adjustable links for the stock track bar and/or drag link, adjustable control arms, rear track bar, new brackets for rear track bar, extended brake lines).

Two inches may not sound like a lot, but the Grenadier has pretty short control arms, so folks who have some experience will have these questions.

EDIT: Just to provide a little context - you can get a 2-inch lift for the Jeep JL / JT directly from the factory (Mopar 2-inch lift), and this kit comes with longer front control arms, longer sway bar links, and extended brake lines:

Some people like the way the Jeep drives with this lift.

Other people are not happy with how their lifted Jeep handles, and end up adding additional parts to their lift, like new brackets that relocate the rear track bar, an adjustable front track bar, an adjustable end-link for the drag link, and adjustable lower control arms. Most of these people I have talked to wish that they had bought a complete kit from the get-go.

MrMike · Jan 12, 2024

Sela Green said:
I'm working with a couple of suppliers to put together a 2" lift. Has this been done or should I keep pushing forward. It will take the Gren out of commission for a couple of weeks but that is OK. How much demand do you think there will be?

Eibach already have a 2 inch lift that gives you the factory ride (progressive coils), they seem to be selling well.

Sela Green · Jan 12, 2024

MrMike said:
Eibach already have a 2 inch lift that gives you the factory ride (progressive coils), they seem to be selling well.

More information, please. Eibach is based in California.

Krabby · Jan 12, 2024

MrMike said:
Eibach already have a 2 inch lift that gives you the factory ride (progressive coils), they seem to be selling well.

Is it a 2" lift? I thought it was ~30mm (which is ~1 3/16")

AnD3rew · Jan 12, 2024

MrMike said:
Eibach already have a 2 inch lift that gives you the factory ride (progressive coils), they seem to be selling well.

It’s more like 1”

Tom109 · Jan 12, 2024

Having taken a deep dive into Rover coil-sprung suspension in the 1990’s, I’m very interested to see what options appear on the market. For now I need to see how my factory suspension performs, and make a few tests of my own. I expect we’ll see some “professional” aftermarket input Q3 2024.

ya5891 · Jan 12, 2024

LeTech have a 4cm lift kit (which equates to about 1.6")

Sela Green · Jan 12, 2024

INEOS GRENADIER PLK, W/ WINCH

TBD

eibach.com

This is all I can find from Eibach at the moment.

I have a really good spring supplier, so that part is not a problem. It will be a question of how to do the rate on the springs, as everyone will have different expectations. The shocks, however, will be a little more complex, but King has already been looking, so I'm waiting on their input and options.

The really interesting part is that the Gren almost looks like it was made to lift. The control arm geometry is ideal for a small lift. The drive shafts are CV'd, and all other connections seem ready. I will send my springs out next week for baseline evaluation, so let's see what happens.

Here is one of my experiments.

Tom109 · Jan 12, 2024

@Sela Green - you may want to have a read through this thread (if you haven't already).

Coil Springs (spec vs. build)

MrMike · Jan 12, 2024

Tom109 said:
@Sela Green - you may want to have a read through this thread (if you haven't already).

Coil Springs (spec vs. build)

There was some mention made about the limit of which you can put on a Grenadier? Am I correct?

MrMike · Jan 12, 2024

AnD3rew said:
It’s more like 1”

Interesting, a local guy said his Grenadier was more like 40mm

MrMike · Jan 12, 2024

Krabby said:
Is it a 2" lift? I thought it was ~30mm (which is ~1 3/16")

Local guy has the lift and he says 40mm

Krabby · Jan 12, 2024

MrMike said:
Interesting, a local guy said his Grenadier was more like 40mm

Maybe if you installed ones rated for a winch and don't have one - so there's no compression?

MrMike · Jan 12, 2024

Sela Green said:
More information, please. Eibach is based in California.

Eibach are a German company based in Finnentrop.

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