Front spot lights

JohnHeagney · Dec 27, 2023

Good morning All and Happy Christmas!
Has anyone switched the two front spot lights with effective lights that are “eye ball burners” rather than the existing ones that are as effective as a couple of candles?
Preferably just a direct swap over, I have seen rectangular Lazers fitted but would prefer to just do a straight replacement.
Thanks
John

Trialmaster · Dec 27, 2023

I am going to fit the Lazer 9 inch Sentinels. As per this video.

View: https://youtu.be/NDpeNMwV0yA?si=y7Z-PFAU2FAMC9MX

Krabby · Dec 27, 2023

JohnHeagney said:
Good morning All and Happy Christmas!
Has anyone switched the two front spot lights with effective lights that are “eye ball burners” rather than the existing ones that are as effective as a couple of candles?
Preferably just a direct swap over, I have seen rectangular Lazers fitted but would prefer to just do a straight replacement.
Thanks
John

Expensive but nice!

Lights

JohnHeagney · Dec 27, 2023

Trialmaster said:
I am going to fit the Lazer 9 inch Sentinels. As per this video.

View: https://youtu.be/NDpeNMwV0yA?si=y7Z-PFAU2FAMC9MX

That's an interesting mod! Any idea of the approximate cost?
Thanks
John

Tom109 · Dec 27, 2023

Trialmaster said:
I am going to fit the Lazer 9 inch Sentinels. As per this video.

View: https://youtu.be/NDpeNMwV0yA?si=y7Z-PFAU2FAMC9MX

That is a great install. I go back and forth between something like that, or a light bar on my roof rack. I’ll most likely go light bar due to the factory connectors and switches (plus adding a reverse work light).

grnamin · Dec 27, 2023

Tom109 said:
That is a great install. I go back and forth between something like that, or a light bar on my roof rack. I’ll most likely go light bar due to the factory connectors and switches (plus adding a reverse work light).

There is a factory connector in the engine bay with a corresponding switch on the overhead panel. I forgot what number it is.

Tom109 · Dec 27, 2023

grnamin said:
There is a factory connector in the engine bay with a corresponding switch on the overhead panel. I forgot what number it is.

True. And easier to connect to high beams as well.

Arkaig · Dec 27, 2023

JohnHeagney said:
Good morning All and Happy Christmas!
Has anyone switched the two front spot lights with effective lights that are “eye ball burners” rather than the existing ones that are as effective as a couple of candles?
Preferably just a direct swap over, I have seen rectangular Lazers fitted but would prefer to just do a straight replacement.
Thanks
John

I agree the two 5" spot lights do lack a bit of punch, and I too am considering an upgrade. I had thought Lazer would have brought out a suitable grill kit for the Grenadier incorporating 5" or even 7" round lamps, but their idea with rectangular lamps changes the whole front facial design that just doesn't meet with my approval. I considered the Lazer 9 inch Sentinels, but really to my mind they are too big.

I see TMD Tuning have brought out a kit - Floodlight Kit or Spotlight Kit - costing £1,199 that nicely integrates two Vision-X Cannon Flood or Spot lamps while retaining the original Grenadier design.

My only real concern revolves round the TMD Tuning price of £1,199 which seems a bit rich for basically 2 machined anodised rings, 2 stainless steel supports, and an aluminium relay support, given the lamps themselves retail at only £639.38 - VISION X LIGHT CANNON 4.7" CG2 49W MULTI LED DRIVING LIGHT KIT. Nice to see is the Vision X lamps carry a 5.5 year manufacturer's function warranty.

JohnHeagney · Dec 27, 2023

Arkaig said:
I agree the two 5" spot lights do lack a bit of punch, and I too am considering an upgrade. I had thought Lazer would have brought out a suitable grill kit for the Grenadier incorporating 5" or even 7" round lamps, but their idea with rectangular lamps changes the whole front facial design that just doesn't meet with my approval. I considered the Lazer 9 inch Sentinels, but really to my mind they are too big.

I see TMD Tuning have brought out a kit - Floodlight Kit or Spotlight Kit - costing £1,199 that nicely integrates two Vision-X Cannon Flood or Spot lamps while retaining the original Grenadier design.

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My only real concern revolves round the TMD Tuning price of £1,199 which seems a bit rich for basically 2 machined anodised rings, 2 stainless steel supports, and an aluminium relay support, given the lamps themselves retail at only £639.38 - VISION X LIGHT CANNON 4.7" CG2 49W MULTI LED DRIVING LIGHT KIT. Nice to see is the Vision X lamps carry a 5.5 year manufacturer's function warranty

Thanks for the very informative post @Arkaig - I agree about retaining the current design. A hefty price for what will be occasional use! Back to the drawing board for me!

Cheers

John

zvakanaka · Feb 23, 2024

In North America for some reason our spot lights only work in off-road mode WHY???
Anyone found a work around that illuminates these spot light on high beam?

Asnes · Feb 23, 2024

zvakanaka said:
In North America for some reason our spot lights only work in off-road mode WHY???
Anyone found a work around that illuminates these spot light on high beam?

It’s the law in the US. You can re-wire them and tie into your aux panel to switch on/off. They are pretty weak / low lumen output actually. I’ll eventually just upgrade to some more powerful LED lights and keep stock front end vs bolt ons.

DaBull · Feb 23, 2024

Trialmaster said:
I am going to fit the Lazer 9 inch Sentinels. As per this video.

View: https://youtu.be/NDpeNMwV0yA?si=y7Z-PFAU2FAMC9MX

That Satin Wrap has given me some ideas for my Shale Blue Grenadier when I get it in 2-3 weeks.....
DaBull

JohnHeagney · Feb 23, 2024

zvakanaka said:
In North America for some reason our spot lights only work in off-road mode WHY???
Anyone found a work around that illuminates these spot light on high beam?

In mine, it must be because it is a UK vehicle, they work on high beam if turned on via the overhead panel and go out when the lights are dipped. They are however pretty weak and I need to update them to make them more effective.

ECrider · Feb 23, 2024

Mine are pretty ineffective, could do with beefing up. Also, 9 out of 10 times it requires a double push of the overhead aux button to turn them on, whether main beam on or off. Once they are on I can toggle them on and off with just a single press - bit odd. I noticed as well that when the dipped beams are on and I toggle the aux switch on there's a noticeable drop in the dipped beam intensity (this is just activating the aux lights switch and not touching the main/high beam).

[ Adam ] · Feb 23, 2024

zvakanaka said:
In North America for some reason our spot lights only work in off-road mode WHY???
Anyone found a work around that illuminates these spot light on high beam?

As has been noted, these are not fog lights and they are not marked DOT. They are Aux lights, and legally cannot be used on the road in the US.

This, they are configured to only work in off road mode.

zvakanaka · Feb 23, 2024

[ Adam ] said:
As has been noted, these are not fog lights and they are not marked DOT. They are Aux lights, and legally cannot be used on the road in the US.

This, they are configured to only work in off road mode.

As the kids say “whatever” my question still is, is there a work around? Obviously its fairly easy to add DOT replacement lights as some have already done IF one is compelled to comply with DOT.

Tom109 · Feb 23, 2024

This is on my list to check when I drop the roof switch panel. I’m waiting for a warm weekend to install my Wolfbox. My guess is that the switch wiring is the easiest location to change between USA and RoW.

zvakanaka · Feb 23, 2024

I bet you’re right.
I wired my mirror/camera into the back of the 12 volt outlet in the center console, it’s ignition switched there so mirror automatically comes on/off with ignition key

zvakanaka · Feb 23, 2024

Asnes said:
It’s the law in the US. You can re-wire them and tie into your aux panel to switch on/off. They are pretty weak / low lumen output actually. I’ll eventually just upgrade to some more powerful LED lights and keep stock front end vs bolt ons.

It’s the law sure and why the manufacturer has no option other than installing DOT approved lights. Complicated it isn't but probably more expensive and complying with DOT after delivery is not priority # 1 for me. Connecting to aux overhead panel is easy but would like to tie in with high beam activation. In the old days this was simple, just spice into the high beam wiring harness but today that may not be that simple. Since the ROW has this feature standard it shouldn’t be rocket science to figure it out but I’m not one.

zvakanaka · Feb 23, 2024

DaBull said:
That Satin Wrap has given me some ideas for my Shale Blue Grenadier when I get it in 2-3 weeks.....
DaBull

I’m getting a ton on compliments on my shale blue choice

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