Footwell intrusion

Znarfgh · Dec 10, 2023

I don't think Ineos consider the footrest to be an issue.

I was told by an Ineos representative that the design was created by an ergonomics engineer. For those that can't live with it, lift the floor matting and have a look - you'll find that there is a void behind the foot rest even though there is a protrusion from the catalytic converter. You could "bodge" up something to make it more comfortable for you.

So far, I have not felt the need to do something about it - I'll wait till a longer trip to Central Australia next year and decide then.

Tazzieman · Dec 10, 2023

The footwell is a great feature. But only if your feet are great!
No complaints , sorry!

Solmanic · Dec 10, 2023

Znarfgh said:
I don't think Ineos consider the footrest to be an issue.

I was told by an Ineos representative that the design was created by an ergonomics engineer. For those that can't live with it, lift the floor matting and have a look - you'll find that there is a void behind the foot rest even though there is a protrusion from the catalytic converter. You could "bodge" up something to make it more comfortable for you.

So far, I have not felt the need to do something about it - I'll wait till a longer trip to Central Australia next year and decide then.

I would argue that it was probably reviewed by an ergonomics engineer - which is not the same as being created by one. The ergonomics engineer probably just said something like "well if it has to be there then make the angle X degrees so noone dies of cramp" or something.

Max · Dec 10, 2023

If you are trying to drive the Gren like a car or even some utes sitting positions you will have issues...you are sitting in a truck and should be able to see both front corners...I drove home from the beach yesterday with soaking feet and my Birkenstock were on top of each other on the footrest...I am driving a truck and hardly use the footrest...181cm-5ft 11in no probs here

rovie · Dec 10, 2023

Max said:
If you are trying to drive the Gren like a car or even some utes sitting positions you will have issues...you are sitting in a truck and should be able to see both front corners...I drove home from the beach yesterday with soaking feet and my Birkenstock were on top of each other on the footrest...I am driving a truck and hardly use the footrest...181cm-5ft 11in no probs here

When driving an off-road vehicle, you should wear sturdy shoes and not overpriced German pseudo-sandals.

Max · Dec 11, 2023

rovie said:
When driving an off-road vehicle, you should wear sturdy shoes and not overpriced German pseudo-sandals.

I really should be buying RM Williams and not helping your economy..they don't do a pseudo-sandal unfortunately

They are the off-road version and Brilliant... thanks

trobex · Dec 11, 2023

Solmanic said:
I would argue that it was probably reviewed by an ergonomics engineer - which is not the same as being created by one. The ergonomics engineer probably just said something like "well if it has to be there then make the angle X degrees so noone dies of cramp" or something.

This is the case and what the Australian engineers told me during my PT03 test drives. They did put this back to the design team early but got zero response from IA headquarters. Just so we know there was concerns put back to IA by our good Aussie Engineers but feel on "it will be ok" cloth ears. Anyway try 700km in a day and get back to me - Mt longest stint in a day and it was a little cramped tell the truth.

Nocrays · Dec 11, 2023

trobex said:
This is the case and what the Australian engineers told me during my PT03 test drives. They did put this back to the design team early but got zero response from IA headquarters. Just so we know there was concerns put back to IA by our good Aussie Engineers but feel on "it will be ok" cloth ears. Anyway try 700km in a day and get back to me - Mt longest stint in a day and it was a little cramped tell the truth.

Baron von Teuchter · Dec 11, 2023

I’m 1.94m (6’4” and a bit) and I don’t even notice it, honestly, I find the driving position perfect. I do have the seat up quite high and quite upright but thats just the sort of driving position I like and am used to.

Nocrays · Dec 11, 2023

There is definitely a divided camp on this one. Its not a show stopper for me but is a pretty crappy foot well design. Looks a school work experience kid placed the pedal at random. The only thing that I think sits well is the accelerated (which others are putting block on

).

Id like to set the brake pedal back slightly to make it level with the accelerator, reduce the width of the brake pedal and the modify the foot rest flooring to remove some of that padding. That should open it up.

Nocrays · Dec 11, 2023

Baron von Teuchter said:
I’m 1.94m (6’4” and a bit) and I don’t even notice it, honestly, I find the driving position perfect. I do have the seat up quite high and quite upright but thats just the sort of driving position I like and am used to.

I'll be doing a 14 hour run from Perth to Exmouth shortly - Ill let you know how I go. I'm only 6'2" and short drives (~2 hours) its fine. Be interesting to see how the long stretches go.

Baron von Teuchter · Dec 11, 2023

Keep us posted! Longest drive I’ve done so far is only 3 hours too and it was fine but I would any problems would have shown up by then.

Cheshire cat · Dec 11, 2023

700 miles in one day for me and no real issues. That said, if someone develops a new moulded Matt that reduces the intrusion, I would definitely consider it. Not sure why as in reality, at 5’9”, I don’t have any problems with it. On long journeys however, it would be nice to stretch my left leg without worming it behind the brake pedal.

Baron von Teuchter · Dec 11, 2023

Has anyone actually pulled the manifold pipe out looked to see if it can be modified and the floor reshaped with a BFH?

OGrid · Dec 11, 2023

Baron von Teuchter said:
Has anyone actually pulled the manifold pipe out looked to see if it can be modified and the floor reshaped with a BFH?

BFH?

@DCPU posted some pics a while back, from the assembly line, of the underside. Looked at the time like the intrusion wasn’t easily adjustable.

Edit: this earlier post by @Grey Nomad is very useful to see what can be achieved with the removal of the matting. Something I’ll pursue.

(Post in thread 'Footwell intrusion'
https://www.theineosforum.com/threads/footwell-intrusion.12411284/post-1333158116)

Tazzieman · Dec 11, 2023

trobex said:
Anyway try 700km in a day and get back to me - Mt longest stint in a day and it was a little cramped tell the truth.

You need to stop and stretch now and again.
Methinks you are getting a bit tight in your middle age!

nuclearbeef · Dec 12, 2023

OGrid said:
BFH?

BFH = 5lb sledge

Baron von Teuchter · Dec 12, 2023

nuclearbeef said:
BFH = 5lb sledge

Big
Forkin
Hammer

[ Adam ] · Dec 12, 2023

I was watching a video of the manufacturing plant and noticed this shot of it

View: https://youtu.be/0_B7xRlK7NE?si=DynPRi9vIyVgE1V4&t=60

Skydance · Dec 12, 2023

As much I love my grenadier, the looks, it’s sturdiness and charm. I also own a new Suzuki Jimny too and there is no issues stretching my leg and steering returns to centre in the Jimny so I can’t understand why. It’s the same setup.

On longer journey in the Grenadier I begin to get cramp in my left leg. This and the steering can certainly be improved. If I move my seat backwards and extend the steering wheel then I’m looking at the b pillar rather out of the side window. So that doesn’t work either.

I have my foot positioned towards the middle of the accelerator pedal. Twice I nearly caused an accident, you either press the accelerator then a delay. Or press it harder and it full power. Can’t modulate it very well and takes a bit getting use to.

If they can fix these issues along with a bigger reverse camera screen, it would be absolutely perfect. That’s my honest opinion. You learn to put up with things but manufacturers need firstly get the basics right.

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