Australasia Grenadier Delivery & Wait Times in Australia.

Tazzieman · Sep 8, 2023

Bushguide said:
I think they all say that.

It is a non optional "feature" of the wife when you marry her.

DCatt · Sep 9, 2023

AnD3rew said:
Ok haven’t seen that before, interesting. Not unusually for dealers you pay for convenience as there is a solid margin for all that in there. I am also not sure I trust that for example with the ceramic coating they do a proper paint correction first. I have already had my guy who I know and trust will do a fabulous job qoute me $1800 for a high end ceramic including paint correction. The wrapping and PPF seems particularly expensive. Looks like a proper INEOS branding, wonder if it is at all agents or an Ignition special?

Hi And3Rew, do you have your vehicle yet and has your detailer completed paint correction and ceramic coating.

I am also Britannia Blue and mine is with my detailer at the moment. There is a significant amount of paint correction needed on mine. I noticed swirl marks on RH front guard and thought the agent may have done it so passed on feedback.

My guy reached out to other reputable contacts who have worked on the cars and seems mine is worse than others albeit they were all metallic paint not solid.

Just interested in your feedback given it’s the same colour.

grenadierboy · Sep 10, 2023

DCatt said:
Hi And3Rew, do you have your vehicle yet and has your detailer completed paint correction and ceramic coating.

I am also Britannia Blue and mine is with my detailer at the moment. There is a significant amount of paint correction needed on mine. I noticed swirl marks on RH front guard and thought the agent may have done it so passed on feedback.

My guy reached out to other reputable contacts who have worked on the cars and seems mine is worse than others albeit they were all metallic paint not solid.

Just interested in your feedback given it’s the same colour.

Last week I applied a "ceramic" coating to mine.

I am not an expert paint corrector but as the owner of few older (60's) cars that I have invested a lot of time (and some reasonable tools) to learn about the processes do this.

2 points:
The term ceramic is in quotes above because there are different ceramic coatings.
I did an Autogylm ($150) DIY "ceramic coating".
It is a sort of ceramic but not really, and not what Andrew had in mind, because the chemicals in the DIY ceramic applications only contain some of the key elements of a professional ceramic application. (reflected in th prices too).
Thus the end result is not the same but, I really only wanted a water beading layer (like wax) but one that lasts longer & a bit of extra shine.

Secondly, in preping the paint (wash, clay bar etc) I found a lot swirl marks, (using LED lighting) especially the front bonnet and front wing areas. I removed these with a sutiable polisher but of course they will come back and more - which is fine but I wanted a clean sheet to start.

Karearea · Sep 10, 2023

Tazzieman said:
Sadly the glitch cannot be resolved whilst we are in town.
A bit like getting a voucher instead of an actual present on Christmas Day.
But agent says he will deliver it next Wednesday, saving us a day of driving.
Had a look around it in the workshop , absolutely lovely beast it is. Colour is like coffee ice cream. Or mushroom ice cream , if that exists.
Very happy chappy , despite the disappointment today.

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Awesome looking truck

Miltz · Sep 10, 2023

Miltz said:
Well I was able to change the contract from my business to personal, but at the last minute (last day, it took a trip to the agent and a few overseas phone calls to make it happen).

Vehicle is on a boat and due to dock later this week and expecting 6-7 weeks for customs, processing & dealer delivery.

Finance the next challenge, as it was originally a business purchase and expected before JUN 30 there was the instant asset write off and then tax deductions going forward that made it a lot cheaper (~40% off), will have to see how I go now that it is personal (with some work use) and technically "newly employed". It's affordable but a lot more expensive, up to the bank now...

I have my Grenadier!

It arrived on the boat as expected though cleared customs/quarantine and was delivered to the agent well ahead of schedule (less than 2 weeks, expectation was 6-8 weeks) leaving me scrambling for finance & insurance while pre-delivery was underway (which there was a slight hold up with waiting on AUS spec side repeater lights to be delivered to the agent).

Finance through Ineos was very straightforward which was a bit unexpected given the rather large change in circumstances since ordering the vehicle, all in the past few months. As was arranging insurance which I'm very happy with (though without making a claim it's hard to say whether promises meet expectations).

Ordered a few more accessories through the agent when it arrived, which have now arrived at the agent (2 weeks) ready for install and will have them fitted this week.

Very happy with it, all I expected and more!

Couple of gripes. The odd warning message show up on the infotainment at start up but no lights on the tell-tale screen in front of the steering wheel, and they clear as soon as I take off, it's almost like they appear based on your start up procedure, if you shut the doors, everyone puts their seatbelt on, start the car, put it in gear and release the hand break you get no error message, deviate from this and I get a quick error, generally for airbags or transmission that clears as soon as you get going to a speed that the doors auto-lock at, no doubt a software update will address this.

And it was delivered with the steering alignment slightly off, steering wheel sits at about 12:30 while travelling in a straight line on level ground, so it needs a minor alignment change but will probably hold off until it's done 1000km so everything can settle into place and get it right then. No doubt the very low steering ratio makes centring the wheel more difficult than most and is more likely to creep with tyre wear etc.

DCPU · Sep 10, 2023

Miltz said:
And it was delivered with the steering alignment slightly off, steering wheel sits at about 12:30 while travelling in a straight line on level ground, so it needs a minor alignment change but will probably hold off until it's done 1000km so everything can settle into place and get it right then. No doubt the very low steering ratio makes centring the wheel more difficult than most and is more likely to creep with tyre wear etc.

The steering should have been correct from the factory, and even more odd that it's not picked up at PDI.

If there's any settling or creep, then there's even more fundamental issues. Once set, it should not move at all.

Miltz · Sep 10, 2023

It hasn't creeped (yet, 400km this week), though it has in the last 2 new cars I've owned (one quite significantly before settling). It doesn't actually pull in any direction either, it's just the steering wheel not being centred.

DCPU · Sep 10, 2023

Can you explain how the "creep" has been remedied in previous vehicles?

grenadierboy · Sep 10, 2023

Miltz said:
It hasn't creeped (yet, 400km this week), though it has in the last 2 new cars I've owned (one quite significantly before settling). It doesn't actually pull in any direction either, it's just the steering wheel not being centred.

Just returned from an 160km round trip, almost all on bitumen so a good opportunity to check steering wheel alignment.

Here is my steering wheel position to keep the car straight on the road - clearly off center.

However, what I don't know is the amount of this "off centering" due to the road camber - all or some of it.

Road camber is usually around 2%, so for RHD cars driving on left side of the road, my steering wheel would need to be off center to the right to keep the Grenadier on the road in a straight line.

I guess I would need to take the car to a wheel alignment shop to check.

K1LL3M · Sep 10, 2023

Its a reasonably easy fix if you're not happy with it. Just show them picture and tell them you want the steering wheel rotated

grenadierboy · Sep 10, 2023

K1LL3M said:
Its a reasonably easy fix if you're not happy with it. Just show them picture and tell them you want the steering wheel rotated

Yes - it's relatively easy by adjusting the tie-rod ends just need to find a bitumen area to drive it to check impact of road camber first.

Miltz · Sep 10, 2023

DCPU said:
Can you explain how the "creep" has been remedied in previous vehicles?

Tightening bolts and adjusting threaded connections where there is soft mounting points (rubber/urethane bushings/isolation mounts) once they'd bedded in after some use.

Miltz · Sep 10, 2023

grenadierboy said:
Just returned from an 160km round trip, almost all on bitumen so a good opportunity to check steering wheel alignment.

Here is my steering wheel position to keep the car straight on the road - clearly off center.

View attachment 7826377

However, what I don't know is the amount of this "off centering" due to the road camber - all or some of it.

Road camber is usually around 2%, so for RHD cars driving on left side of the road, my steering wheel would need to be off center to the right to keep the Grenadier on the road in a straight line.

I guess I would need to take the car to a wheel alignment shop to check.

Hi grenadierboy,

My steering is probably off exactly the same as yours!

I did consider the road crossfall which is typically designed at -3% but actual construction varies between -1.5 & -4% with an average of around -2.5% (assuming a typical straight road). So I drove on the wrong side of the road to see if it made an major impact (knowing there should be at least a minor impact), the steering wheel got closer to centre but was still off.

Miltz · Sep 10, 2023

K1LL3M said:
Its a reasonably easy fix if you're not happy with it. Just show them picture and tell them you want the steering wheel rotated

That's my intention, I could do it myself, half a turn looser 1 side, half a turn tighter the other etc. until it's inline but being a new car you kinda expect the steering wheel to point where the road wheels are going, at least after a running in period.

grenadierboy · Sep 10, 2023

Miltz said:
That's my intention, I could do it myself, half a turn looser 1 side, half a turn tighter the other etc. until it's inline but being a new car you kinda expect the steering wheel to point where the road wheels are going, at least after a running in period.

Exactly.
I will add this to the other items needing attention when I return my car for the camp table to be fitted

K1LL3M · Sep 10, 2023

Miltz said:
That's my intention, I could do it myself, half a turn looser 1 side, half a turn tighter the other etc. until it's inline but being a new car you kinda expect the steering wheel to point where the road wheels are going, at least after a running in period.

100% agree

AnD3rew · Sep 10, 2023

DCatt said:
Hi And3Rew, do you have your vehicle yet and has your detailer completed paint correction and ceramic coating.

I am also Britannia Blue and mine is with my detailer at the moment. There is a significant amount of paint correction needed on mine. I noticed swirl marks on RH front guard and thought the agent may have done it so passed on feedback.

My guy reached out to other reputable contacts who have worked on the cars and seems mine is worse than others albeit they were all metallic paint not solid.

Just interested in your feedback given it’s the same colour.

I have mine and yes coated. Pretty sure they didn’t actually do a paint correction as I can definitely see small scratches if I look carefully in the right light. They also had to redo a couple of bits that weren’t done well, to their credit full acknowledgment and no argument at all. But TBH if I were to do again would probably go elsewhere to a specialist for coating. End result isn’t bad, but could be better

DCatt · Sep 11, 2023

grenadierboy said:
Last week I applied a "ceramic" coating to mine.

I am not an expert paint corrector but as the owner of few older (60's) cars that I have invested a lot of time (and some reasonable tools) to learn about the processes do this.

2 points:
The term ceramic is in quotes above because there are different ceramic coatings.
I did an Autogylm ($150) DIY "ceramic coating".
It is a sort of ceramic but not really, and not what Andrew had in mind, because the chemicals in the DIY ceramic applications only contain some of the key elements of a professional ceramic application. (reflected in th prices too).
Thus the end result is not the same but, I really only wanted a water beading layer (like wax) but one that lasts longer & a bit of extra shine.

Secondly, in preping the paint (wash, clay bar etc) I found a lot swirl marks, (using LED lighting) especially the front bonnet and front wing areas. I removed these with a sutiable polisher but of course they will come back and more - which is fine but I wanted a clean sheet to start.

Totally agree re clean sheet! I know I’ll end up with scratches in time but just want to start with a new car looking err.. new!

Bushguide · Sep 12, 2023

Any recommendations as far as Grenadier insurance is concerned here in Australia?

DaveB · Sep 12, 2023

Bushguide said:
Any recommendations as far as Grenadier insurance is concerned here in Australia?

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