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The Utility Belt

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I'm still a bit confused by the external utility belt.
Can anyone demonstrate how it will be used?
To me it seems that any proposed use will either, damage the paint (imagine a shovel or axe mounted on the side body), and/or prevent the doors from being opened (imagine maxxtrax or fishing rods that are longer than the width of the door mounted on a door).
I'm also struggling to imagine more than two or three possible applications.
Is anyone else a little confused too - or am I just being daft.
I'd love to see some images of a utility belt being 'utilised', or even just some ideas/plans.
Thanks in advance, Guardsmen.
Henry
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Couldn't see any point in them, so didn't order them, a bit of gimmick if you ask me. Far more useful on the inside.
 

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No idea what I want them for but ordered them anyway as thought it was a good idea at the time 👍🏼
It's like a Swiss army knife. You use the knife for peeling apples , and the rest for that moment that hasn't yet arrived in your life.
e.g. scaling a fish in a survival situation etc.
 

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The history is all pretty interesting. It traces back to WW1 war in the deserts of Libya et al and the exploits of British and Australian Light Car Patrols. These provided force and specialised reconnaissance for the mounted infantry using Model T Fords heavily armed with Lewis guns. The LRDG was a revival of their methods (eg sun compass).

I was fascinated by all this stuff as a kid which led to several desert expeditions, including retracing TE Lawrence‘s campaign in the Hejaz.
I was quite influenced reading Sterling's Desert Raiders as a youth. So much so that I collected Sun Compasses from different eras and learned how to use them. Not a practical navigation aid in my region, but quite fun and well suited for my exMoD Land Rover...

Abrams Universal Sun Compass
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Howard Mk.II Sun Compass
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I was quite influenced reading Sterling's Desert Raiders as a youth. So much so that I collected Sun Compasses from different eras and learned how to use them. Not a practical navigation aid in my region, but quite fun and well suited for my exMoD Land Rover...

Abrams Universal Sun Compass
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Howard Mk.II Sun Compass
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Hey, I've seen that one before. Decades ago in our physics class! Unbelievable!
 

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Something Ineos could look at - the edges of the utilty belt sit away from the body side - leaves a gap for debris, in my case fine conifer seeds, to drop into:
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I was quite influenced reading Sterling's Desert Raiders as a youth. So much so that I collected Sun Compasses from different eras and learned how to use them. Not a practical navigation aid in my region, but quite fun and well suited for my exMoD Land Rover...

Abrams Universal Sun Compass
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Howard Mk.II Sun Compass
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Do you have a Bagnold type? With tables books?

AWo
 

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Do you have a Bagnold type? With tables books?

AWo
I do have the manual for the Howard Sun Compass. After acquiring it, I found a Howard reference at the Imperial War Museum and inquired to a manual. Shortly after I received a response they were checking, and then they provided a PDF version. Let me know if this will help.
 
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Something Ineos could look at - the edges of the utilty belt sit away from the body side - leaves a gap for debris, in my case fine conifer seeds, to drop into:
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Can you see if there is open space behind the gaps to allow for spraying it out? And if so, will the debris get caught inside the body or run out freely To the ground and not accumulat?

Good find.
 

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Something Ineos could look at - the edges of the utilty belt sit away from the body side - leaves a gap for debris, in my case fine conifer seeds, to drop into:
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This may be a ridiculous question, but could that crack be caulked with some sort of marine sealant/caulk (Sample)? Would have to be done and cleaned very carefully, I know.
 

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Something Ineos could look at - the edges of the utilty belt sit away from the body side - leaves a gap for debris, in my case fine conifer seeds, to drop into:
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That gap is going to collect a massive amount of road dust/grit/debris that will slowly filter down and lodge behind the plastic belt.

I think that is poor fit & finish - it should be a snug fit.

I assume the belt is not loose or has something wedged behind it making it sit proud?
 

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That gap is going to collect a massive amount of road dust/grit/debris that will slowly filter down and lodge behind the plastic belt.
I think that's what's already happening with mine.
I think that is poor fit & finish - it should be a snug fit.
Yes, I think it's more of a design issue rather than bad installation.
I assume the belt is not loose or has something wedged behind it making it sit proud?
I think it's to do with the double steps they've stamped into the doors:
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