So where are all the first impressions? (right here)

Beormund said:

Some first observations:

• Surprisingly quiet at 60-70mph given the upright windscreen and boxy shape. I too noticed some vibration at a certain cruising speed as others have mentioned. Will see if this settles down as the car loosens up.
• The TPMS (tyre pressure system) kept alerting me to 2 tyres being slightly high. Will measure the pressure tomorrow and adjust if necessary but it might be a gremlin that INEOS will fine tune in a next update. The local agent said that INEOS may release further updates to iron out some early gremlins.
• The touch screen shows an incredible amount of useful info. It can be hard to see in bright sunlight. I would have preferred it to be slightly angled towards the driver.
• The car was handed over with a full tank of diesel which was nice. And it had about 20 miles on the clock.
• Android Auto - needs to be plugged in to the USB-C port for Google Maps to work etc - yuck.
• Audio is OK. Not much bass. But haven't tried the equaliser yet.
• Auto transmission is fab, and can be surprisingly punchy when overtaking!
• Boy does the car get plenty of looks - "what the hell is it?"
• The car had some paint scuffs on the drivers door sill which will be seen to by the agent when I return to have the accessories fitted.
• All in all extremely happy. LOVE it.

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DaBull said:

Hi Beormund, In regard to using stainless screws on aluminum or for that matter any dissimilar type of metal fasteners, I use TuF-Gel, which is a teflon paste used in the marine environment often. A bit expensive, however a little goes a very long way. It isolates different metals from each other to stop or help prevent galvanic corrosion and makes it easier to remove a fastener later on too. Here's a link where I purchased some. Da Bull

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Barney said:

@ all. What are your experiences with rust converters. Which product do you prefer? spray or liquid? I hope I don't need any for the new car that's still waiting at the dealer.

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Ever Pragmatic said:

This is the tape and how it looks once applied. Needs very clean paint work.. you’ll need a sharp craft knife to fettle it in as it wider than you need.

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DCPU said:

You really hope this guy never puts anything in his back pockets...
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Tazzieman said:

Titanium is even lighter , so he can reduce the GVM a tiny tiny bit!

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Barney said:

@ all. What are your experiences with rust converters. Which product do you prefer? spray or liquid? I hope I don't need any for the new car that's still waiting at the dealer.

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Beormund said:

BTW, there IS roadside assistance in the UK according to my local agent. I will get 2 years AA membership through the post shortly arranged by INEOS.

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@nd said:

Thanks (what a Prat)never had one that locks before

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DCPU said:

I always thought roadside assistance should mirror the warranty term?

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rovie said:

Hi guys,
As promised, I'm getting back in touch to share some news with you. I will try to address a few of the issues you have raised in various threads.
1) Colour MM in different lighting conditions. I have photographed in the forest (shade) and in the field (sun). I'm glad I stuck with it thanks to my family's persistence. In the meantime, I had considered Sela Green.
2) Personally, I find it a pity that there are no storage compartments in the rear. Here I help myself out with boxes or bags to store my utensils. The tabs on the plastic covers (e.g. in front of the jack) will certainly become harder at some point and may break off. This could have been solved better with twist locks, like on the first aid kit.
3) The plastic protection on the door sills is too small in my opinion. I'm sure there will soon be the first scratches in the paintwork.
4) I haven't really got to grips with the heating/ventilation/air conditioning system yet. In automatic mode, heated air comes out of the nozzles in the middle and on the floor. However, a cool draught blows directly in front of the windscreen. I have not yet managed to get these warm as well.
5) The software problems have not been solved in my opinion. Shortly after starting, I got a message about a fault in the gearbox. It then went out and did not reappear. We then drove about 30 km on a country road. Without any error message.
The 30 km drive back was annoying, though. Immediately after starting the vehicle, the seat belt warning light flashed and every second there was an acoustic triad like a xylophone. I turned the vehicle off several times, switched off the engine, locked the vehicle, opened and restarted it - no change. At the same time, the power steering warning came on, and after a restart, the PDC warning also came on. When I got home, I turned the engine off again and restarted it. The warning light was still flashing, but the beautiful monotonous triad was only now gone. Now I will leave the Grenadier alone and wait for tomorrow. However, the acoustic signal could not be acknowledged or switched off.
6) At 1800-1900 revolutions, the vehicle enters a natural frequency. Slight vibrations of plastic parts in the area of the glove compartment and the load compartment are audible. Due to the sheet metal trim in the rear and the load compartment partition, this is certainly stronger than with the windows installed.
Under load (when the engine has to work) you notice a rougher ride at this speed than when driving downhill. This is not surprising. From my experience, however, I wouldn't consider this a big problem. First wait and see.
7) I find the USB ports in the middle box inconveniently placed. Cables or USB sticks are in the middle of the box. If you are careless or reach in roughly, you can tear them off. I am looking for another solution.

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rovie said:

Hi guys,
As promised, I'm getting back in touch to share some news with you. I will try to address a few of the issues you have raised in various threads.
1) Colour MM in different lighting conditions. I have photographed in the forest (shade) and in the field (sun). I'm glad I stuck with it thanks to my family's persistence. In the meantime, I had considered Sela Green.
2) Personally, I find it a pity that there are no storage compartments in the rear. Here I help myself out with boxes or bags to store my utensils. The tabs on the plastic covers (e.g. in front of the jack) will certainly become harder at some point and may break off. This could have been solved better with twist locks, like on the first aid kit.
3) The plastic protection on the door sills is too small in my opinion. I'm sure there will soon be the first scratches in the paintwork.
4) I haven't really got to grips with the heating/ventilation/air conditioning system yet. In automatic mode, heated air comes out of the nozzles in the middle and on the floor. However, a cool draught blows directly in front of the windscreen. I have not yet managed to get these warm as well.
5) The software problems have not been solved in my opinion. Shortly after starting, I got a message about a fault in the gearbox. It then went out and did not reappear. We then drove about 30 km on a country road. Without any error message.
The 30 km drive back was annoying, though. Immediately after starting the vehicle, the seat belt warning light flashed and every second there was an acoustic triad like a xylophone. I turned the vehicle off several times, switched off the engine, locked the vehicle, opened and restarted it - no change. At the same time, the power steering warning came on, and after a restart, the PDC warning also came on. When I got home, I turned the engine off again and restarted it. The warning light was still flashing, but the beautiful monotonous triad was only now gone. Now I will leave the Grenadier alone and wait for tomorrow. However, the acoustic signal could not be acknowledged or switched off.
6) At 1800-1900 revolutions, the vehicle enters a natural frequency. Slight vibrations of plastic parts in the area of the glove compartment and the load compartment are audible. Due to the sheet metal trim in the rear and the load compartment partition, this is certainly stronger than with the windows installed.
Under load (when the engine has to work) you notice a rougher ride at this speed than when driving downhill. This is not surprising. From my experience, however, I wouldn't consider this a big problem. First wait and see.
7) I find the USB ports in the middle box inconveniently placed. Cables or USB sticks are in the middle of the box. If you are careless or reach in roughly, you can tear them off. I am looking for another solution.

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rovie said:

4) I haven't really got to grips with the heating/ventilation/air conditioning system yet. In automatic mode, heated air comes out of the nozzles in the middle and on the floor. However, a cool draught blows directly in front of the windscreen. I have not yet managed to get these warm as well.
5) The software problems have not been solved in my opinion. Shortly after starting, I got a message about a fault in the gearbox. It then went out and did not reappear. We then drove about 30 km on a country road. Without any error message.
The 30 km drive back was annoying, though. Immediately after starting the vehicle, the seat belt warning light flashed and every second there was an acoustic triad like a xylophone. I turned the vehicle off several times, switched off the engine, locked the vehicle, opened and restarted it - no change. At the same time, the power steering warning came on, and after a restart, the PDC warning also came on. When I got home, I turned the engine off again and restarted it. The warning light was still flashing, but the beautiful monotonous triad was only now gone. Now I will leave the Grenadier alone and wait for tomorrow. However, the acoustic signal could not be acknowledged or switched off.
6) At 1800-1900 revolutions, the vehicle enters a natural frequency. Slight vibrations of plastic parts in the area of the glove compartment and the load compartment are audible. Due to the sheet metal trim in the rear and the load compartment partition, this is certainly stronger than with the windows installed.
Under load (when the engine has to work) you notice a rougher ride at this speed than when driving downhill. This is not surprising. From my experience, however, I wouldn't consider this a big problem. First wait and see.

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Highwayman said:

Finally, I have zero vibration at any rpm. Just smooth all the way through.

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DCPU said:

For that amount of surface rust, I'd just use some wet & dry/sandpaper.

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Barney said:

@ all. What are your experiences with rust converters. Which product do you prefer? spray or liquid? I hope I don't need any for the new car that's still waiting at the dealer.

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rovie said:

Hi guys,
As promised, I'm getting back in touch to share some news with you. I will try to address a few of the issues you have raised in various threads.
1) Colour MM in different lighting conditions. I have photographed in the forest (shade) and in the field (sun). I'm glad I stuck with it thanks to my family's persistence. In the meantime, I had considered Sela Green.
2) Personally, I find it a pity that there are no storage compartments in the rear. Here I help myself out with boxes or bags to store my utensils. The tabs on the plastic covers (e.g. in front of the jack) will certainly become harder at some point and may break off. This could have been solved better with twist locks, like on the first aid kit.
3) The plastic protection on the door sills is too small in my opinion. I'm sure there will soon be the first scratches in the paintwork.
4) I haven't really got to grips with the heating/ventilation/air conditioning system yet. In automatic mode, heated air comes out of the nozzles in the middle and on the floor. However, a cool draught blows directly in front of the windscreen. I have not yet managed to get these warm as well.
5) The software problems have not been solved in my opinion. Shortly after starting, I got a message about a fault in the gearbox. It then went out and did not reappear. We then drove about 30 km on a country road. Without any error message.
The 30 km drive back was annoying, though. Immediately after starting the vehicle, the seat belt warning light flashed and every second there was an acoustic triad like a xylophone. I turned the vehicle off several times, switched off the engine, locked the vehicle, opened and restarted it - no change. At the same time, the power steering warning came on, and after a restart, the PDC warning also came on. When I got home, I turned the engine off again and restarted it. The warning light was still flashing, but the beautiful monotonous triad was only now gone. Now I will leave the Grenadier alone and wait for tomorrow. However, the acoustic signal could not be acknowledged or switched off.
6) At 1800-1900 revolutions, the vehicle enters a natural frequency. Slight vibrations of plastic parts in the area of the glove compartment and the load compartment are audible. Due to the sheet metal trim in the rear and the load compartment partition, this is certainly stronger than with the windows installed.
Under load (when the engine has to work) you notice a rougher ride at this speed than when driving downhill. This is not surprising. From my experience, however, I wouldn't consider this a big problem. First wait and see.
7) I find the USB ports in the middle box inconveniently placed. Cables or USB sticks are in the middle of the box. If you are careless or reach in roughly, you can tear them off. I am looking for another solution.

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Ever Pragmatic said:

Picked up a tiny design flaw earlier today…. It’s been raining and the gren was out in it.. I opened both the rear doors and popped my head in to reach some stuff and got a stream of water right down my neck. It seems the inner water seal fills with water and it gushes out when your open the doors and release the pressure. I took this photo to show you what I’m talking about.. It was dripping by then, but it was a stream to start with.

I was on flat ground and apart from getting a wet neck, the water didn’t fall inside the load area. It did splash against the top of the rear bumper..

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