Footwell intrusion

jbrianboyd · Feb 27, 2023

Is the footwell intrusion complained about in the RHD model also present on the LHD?

Krabby · Feb 27, 2023

No, it is not. There's part of the exhaust system on the RHD driver side that prevents the dead pedal from sitting flush. Search the site - there's plenty of conversation and photos on the topic.

IG_in_AZ · Feb 27, 2023

Welcome to the site~!

trobex · Feb 27, 2023

Haha. The old RHD footrest issue. In the UK press release reviews no less than 9 of the videos I watched bring up the RHD footrest. It's an oddity, no other "well engineered" vehicle that I have seen for the$100K AUD market has had such a thing exist in design note have I seen it in any modern wagon. But, as ridiculous as the design flaw is, I'll still enjoy my Gren I'm sure, even if I need an extra visit to the Chiro each month! I have photos of the RHD footrest from looking at it side on from a recent test drive. Nothing a 3 inch timber block can't fix.

Tazzieman · Feb 27, 2023

trobex said:
, even if I need an extra visit to the Chiro each month!

Do you believe they can really adjust your spine?

DaveB · Feb 27, 2023

In my current vehicle there is a hump for the exhaust as well which is supposed to be a footrest (ignore the stupid foot operated hand brake?)
I discovered only yesterday after 5 years of ownership that my left foot doesn't even reach it.
I don't recall the Grenadier foot rest being even noticeable.

MrMike · Feb 28, 2023

DaveB said:
In my current vehicle there is a hump for the exhaust as well which is supposed to be a footrest (ignore the stupid foot operated hand brake?)
I discovered only yesterday after 5 years of ownership that my left foot doesn't even reach it.
I don't recall the Grenadier foot rest being even noticeable.

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Has to be a Merc, only they could put another brake in the footwell

DaveB · Feb 28, 2023

MrMike said:
Has to be a Merc, only they could put another brake in the footwell

So stupid

trobex · Feb 28, 2023

Tazzieman said:
Do you believe they can really adjust your spine?

100%. I had a minor injury once in my earlier life and the Chiro was a godsend. 3 visits ave I was walking and breathing properly again. I still had to do core with to fix the initially problem but hell yes. There is good and bad when it comes to Chiro!

trobex · Feb 28, 2023

DaveB said:
In my current vehicle there is a hump for the exhaust as well which is supposed to be a footrest (ignore the stupid foot operated hand brake?)
I discovered only yesterday after 5 years of ownership that my left foot doesn't even reach it.
I don't recall the Grenadier foot rest being even noticeable.

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I wish the Grenadier footrest was back behind the pedal line like that!!! Not 100mm forward and up!!! Lol

Tazzieman · Feb 28, 2023

trobex said:
100%. I had a minor injury once in my earlier life and the Chiro was a godsend. 3 visits ave I was walking and breathing properly again. I still had to do core with to fix the initially problem but hell yes. There is good and bad when it comes to Chiro!

Like cockroaches, chiros scurry for cover when you shine the light on that pseudoscience.
Trigger point release of muscles is what works. It's what osteopaths do , and the knowledgeable DIYer too

Nobody mention acupuncture please.

trobex · Feb 28, 2023

Tazzieman said:
Like cockroaches, chiros scurry for cover when you shine the light on that pseudoscience.
Trigger point release of muscles is what works. It's what osteopaths do , and the knowledgeable DIYer too
Nobody mention acupuncture please.

You do realise Osteo's literally do the exact same bone manipulation techniques as a Chiro. Osteo's are better though, they also focus on muscle and tendon movements, release, etc. Best thing you can do is move, walk, run, jog swim. Do these, no need for either. Do too much (me) and you can still end up broken!

What I take from your comment, is that Osteo's might be a better choice for RHD Gren drivers lol???

Tazzieman · Feb 28, 2023

trobex said:
You do realise Osteo's literally do the exact same bone manipulation techniques as a Chiro. Osteo's are better though, they also focus on muscle and tendon movements, release, etc. Best thing you can do is move, walk, run, jog swim. Do these, no need for either. Do too much (me) and you can still end up broken!

What I take from your comment, is that Osteo's might be a better choice for RHD Gren drivers lol???

I am an athlete and a medic so I understand the mechanisms behind the various dysfunctions that people suffer.
Practitioners of various artful healings can call themselves what they want, but at the end of the day they shouldn't make unscientific claims, particularly if they are charging $$.
People who are mostly sedentary usually have themselves to blame for health problems.

How many social workers does it take to change a light globe?
Only one , but it's really got to want to change!

ECrider · Feb 28, 2023

DaveB said:
In my current vehicle there is a hump for the exhaust as well which is supposed to be a footrest (ignore the stupid foot operated hand brake?)
I discovered only yesterday after 5 years of ownership that my left foot doesn't even reach it.
I don't recall the Grenadier foot rest being even noticeable.

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looks like you've been heel and toeing DaveB - tricky with no clutch

RavenVoice · Feb 28, 2023

Honestly, I’m not sure why so many people are making such a big deal about this, I don’t think I’ve been in a car that doesn’t have a footrest/exhaust protrusion in the right-hand footwell (the stop-gap Land Rover that I’m currently driving certainly has one). Granted, the one in the Grenadier does look to be larger than most from the photos; however, it doesn’t seem to protrude above the pedal line. I might be proven wrong when my vehicle finally arrives & I get to drive it; however, I personally don’t see why one would want their left foot to sit/rest lower than their right foot which is on the pedals. Surely the footrest results in both feet being more level & a better/more balanced posture? Am I missing something here?

Pipm4000 · Feb 28, 2023

When I test drove the Grenadier off road the footrest felt odd for about 2 minutes then it actually helped you feel more stable in the seat. For off-road use it the seating position seemed great. I think it will be more irritating on a long road drive when you want to stretch out. I’m 6’4” and I would say I am at the limits of being comfortable in the Grenadier. I will ask to see if the seat rails can be repositioned further back which would solve the issue completely for me.

DaveB · Feb 28, 2023

ECrider said:
looks like you've been heel and toeing DaveB - tricky with no clutch

Just toeing and toeing

Steve.B · Feb 28, 2023

At the other end of the scale 170cm I found my test drive very comfortable, and the foot rest a place to rest my left foot, and because of the ongoing debate regarding the footwell intrusion, I was conscience of, and looking for an issue that in my case did not exist.

Mumblepants · Feb 28, 2023

trobex said:
Haha. The old RHD footrest issue. In the UK press release reviews no less than 9 of the videos I watched bring up the RHD footrest. It's an oddity, no other "well engineered" vehicle that I have seen for the$100K AUD market has had such a thing exist in design note have I seen it in any modern wagon. But, as ridiculous as the design flaw is, I'll still enjoy my Gren I'm sure, even if I need an extra visit to the Chiro each month! I have photos of the RHD footrest from looking at it side on from a recent test drive. Nothing a 3 inch timber block can't fix.

ECrider · Feb 28, 2023

I'd drive for 10hrs with a sharp stone in my left foot if it meant Ineos would send me a contract to sign and give me an update on estimated build/delivery date.
Spoke to them yesterday, again the 'experiencing delays' and 'in the coming weeks...' etc.

Thinking back to the raised left foot plinth - I'm 5'10 in cubans and it didn't bother me on the test drive last November. If it becomes an issue there will be ways to make it less of one by those more ingenious than I.

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