Differences between grenadier versions

Cheshire cat said:

Which country are you based in?

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Jean Mercier said:

City Berlin : probably Germany although could as well be USA

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There are 71 places in the world named Berlin!​

denym_ said:

So currently trying to find a reasonable configuration for the Ineos. There is the Utility vs Station in Trialmaster and Fieldmaster. What is the difference between these three? The website doesn't really clear that up for me.
Additionally I am wondering how modular the backseat row is. Mainly I would use the "trunk" for sleeping/storing/travel-living-compartment. But having such a big car and not being able to take more than one additional passenger is also quite a stretch and it would be nice to have the option to switch to multipassenger. Anyone already have some idea about this?

Unfortunately I don't have a dealer nearby and rely on what the website and youtube (which is not much) is offering.

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denym_

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DaveB said:

Assumptions are the mother of all f**k-ups.
You are probably correct, however the US and south America do tend to like the name Berlin

There are 71 places in the world named Berlin!​

Berlin can be found in 18 countries throughout the world.
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denym_ said:

So to make things easier. Its Berlin, Germany... every other is a fraud That should also reduce the offtopic now.
Wait there are also Fieldmaster and Trialmaster of the Utility wagon? This is now even more confusing and the website configurator does not really show those options.
So currently I understand that the Utility is same as Station just with different seat configuration. But then Why the difference anyways since I can have the Utility with 5 seats which makes it a station again.
Trialmaster and Fieldmaster is basically just a preconfigured version of packages. I could just take the base car and configure it the same way and it would be the same?

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DaveB said:

I configured what I wanted rom the 5 seat station wagon, the Trialmaster SW & the Fieldmaster SW and the difference was about AUD$400 or 250 euro
I didn't consider the Utility which apart from the rear seat position and angle it also comes with the load divider and no rear side windows.

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denym_ said:

Ye but when you go through the configurator you can come from each version to the same configuration e.g. the utility wagon can be also fitted read side windows and the station with a load divider. I dont really see any difference and dont think they make 2 different bodies to fit 2 different backseat.
For me it seems there are some essential information missing why would they even come up with those classifications. Why not just start with the base and people configure it to their likings.

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Jean Mercier said:

I understand perfectly your question. I have the same wishes: I would like to be able to sleep in the car if needed without dismounting the back seat. But as long as I don't really have the car, it is difficult to come up with solutions now, but I have some ideas.

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denym_ said:

So to make things easier. Its Berlin, Germany... every other is a fraud That should also reduce the offtopic now.
Wait there are also Fieldmaster and Trialmaster of the Utility wagon? This is now even more confusing and the website configurator does not really show those options.
So currently I understand that the Utility is same as Station just with different seat configuration. But then Why the difference anyways since I can have the Utility with 5 seats which makes it a station again.
Trialmaster and Fieldmaster is basically just a preconfigured version of packages. I could just take the base car and configure it the same way and it would be the same?

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stickshifter said:

Have you seen the drawer kits that goes in the rear compartment? The drawers are supposed to be flush with the rear seats when the seats are folded down. This might work as a sleeping platform. Head-room won't be great when you sit up, but it should work if you are not too fussy. The length of the space isn't great, which has me (perhaps) waiting on the long wheel-base.

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P.S. The drawers do not come standard with a dog. The dog is extra.

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bigleonski said:

I measured the rear cargo area depth. The longest draw system you could get in the back is about 700, maybe 725mm. About a foot shorter than a landcruiser. You’ve got about a foot higher to work with though, so just got to get your head around the logistics of that. I still haven’t measured my 60L engel to see if it will fit.

With a built in fridge slide I’ll want a double drawer system though rather than single. Max width for both is about 1050mm from memory.

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DaveB said:

I have decided to put an upright 65 or 85 Litre fridge in mine on top of a drawer

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bigleonski said:

I’ve seen them before- I think they’d be decent for highway touring but a very poor option on corrugations or rough tracks, you’d have stuff everywhere.

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