My truck came with all of the tie rod and drag link jam nuts loose. As well I had a front brake line dragging on the tire. Amazingly poor QC by Ineos and subsequently my dealer.
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I'm glad everything is tight and working like it's suppose too.
Gotta say, my truck has been very tolerable in terms of issues. It really doesn't have any problems aside from the known software problems. All other issues were resolved by me aside from the brake line and a tire replacement. Is it the perfect truck, NOPE, but it's doing the job for now.
Not sure if you’ve seen this. I have the Fox stabilizer (the non-adjustable one) from Agile. John (head of Agile) has a nice video on adjusting the steering stops to reduce the turn radius. I haven’t tried it yet. I’m sorta thinking about going back to the stock stabilizer - not because I don’t like the Fox one, but just because I don’t know how much of my initial impression of steering was more about me and less about the Grenadier. The reason I wonder about that is I tested a Quartermaster in February, a year after I got my Grenadier - and the stock steering felt perfect. So I can’t tell if it’s fundamentally different, or if my own baseline has shifted. In other words, if I could have gone back in time to the beginning of last year, now that I have been “reprogrammed,” would I also have felt that the Grenadier steering was perfect? I don’t know. Anyhow, here’s the video link
Don't forget the QM has a longer wheelbase which does influence the driving dynamics. Not saying that to sway you, just pointing out another data point.
No steering stabilizers do not cause "death wobble" nor tighten your turning radius, OEM or otherwise.
Yeah - that’s what I was debating with the dealer manager and a couple of the sales reps. We all felt the QM steering was a little more locked in, and were wondering whether that was solely attributable to the longer wheelbase or something else - and I’m still wondering if maybe some of it is just having more experience. I don’t know - that’s why I’m thinking about going back to the original one, just to test that possibility.
The steering stabilizer does not limit the turning radius. The steering stops built into the kingpin assembly control the steering radius and can be adjusted. Owners are replacing the stabilizer because the original version has more resistance than they like which effects straight line tracking and return to center after cornering.
Yes - 2 separate issues. I’ve not adjusted the stops, but I did swap the steering damper. I’m mildly curious to hear what others think - but I’m honestly pretty good with the turning radius. I’m not doing tight switchbacks and I don’t live someplace like Boston.
You're using the word damper in place of stops. That's going to cause confusion. The stabilizer and the damper are the same thing.
I don’t think there will be an issue. You have the stopper bolts with a somewhat conservative setting (the nut is part way down the shaft, which stops you from cranking the wheel all the way over). By moving the nut all the way up to the bolt head, or just replacing it with a couple of washers, the bolt is more inset, allowing you to haul the wheel further over, achieving a tighter turn radius. In the video, John tells you to be careful of other aftermarket steering dampers, that they don’t “bottom out” - meaning absolutely all the flex is used and the damper is fully compressed. That shouldn’t be an issue with the stock damper, because it basically has no flex (or at least far less than either of the Fox dampers). If it would make you more comfortable, you can always email Agile and ask for clarification- but I think John’s point was about flex in the damper - not about length of stock vs their Fox options.
There have been upwards of a dozen cases of death wobble occurring between the forum and FB groups in the US, repeatably, in vehicles with non-OEM steering stabilizers and the same vehicle with no change other than going back to an OEM steering stabilizer yields no death wobble.
Have to agree, most people have no idea what death wobble is. That said, I very much do and have very much gotten it on my Gren when I didn't have a stabilizer on it at all. But, I had owl rims with larger tires and a lift. So some things were different. As well, keep in mind that toe can be a game changer with lighter cases of DW. Meaning death wobble that requires a fair amount of energy to induce.
Having additional toe can help to reduce the start of death wobble and it is much more likely to happen with increasing tire size. And I agree that running without any steering stabilizer is not a good choice. The question with the Grenadier is what level of damping is the Goldilocks amount.
Once you've felt the "I'm about to die" feeling , you just know!
