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[globalgregors]

So hang on, before we consider this resolved… has anyone tried operating Apple CarPlay on a wired basis only?

Trying to work out if I can leave my device connected to StarLink while also employing CarPlay through the same device.

 

[landmannnn]

Thanks to all of you for your follow up. And thanks especially to grnamin for posting those screenshots from the website. Much obliged!

My takeaway is that most of the language describing the IA privacy policy that is contained in those screenshots is boiler plate; as such it doesn't really tell me much. Some of it clearly relates to things like online interaction with Ineos which I simply won't do. (Once I saw there were several pages of privacy disclosure on a new vehicle survey that I received via email a short while ago, I binned the survey!) Also, as ryket tellingly observed: "I assume the info on that site is at best based on Ineos's privacy policy, not the actual capabilities of the car."

I would be happier if I knew for sure that they wouldn't have access to my driving history when I take the car in for service but unless someone has a crystal ball, it may be necessary to assume the worst. But from my perspective that's a lot different from tracking me in real time.

The absence of a SIM card (and -- in the US market -- emergency call button) and no over the air software updates makes it really unlikely that any data flows to IA outside of a service visit. Which means compared to your typical new car, this vehicle is actually rather privacy friendly.

(I'm not too worried about the NSA or the GCHQ or the Mossad since they're a lot smarter -- especially the Mossad -- than I will ever be!)

All in all I do rather love my new beast and I'm looking forward to hitting some places in central Maine in a little less than two weeks.

I've definitely heard of car ecu's recording data. Specifically there was an accident last year where when the speed and braking information were recorded in the airbag ECU. It was one of those where somebody claimed that their car had run away with them and the ECU proved the driver had his foot on the throttle and brakes were not applied (I think he died)

 

[Jeremy996]

All cars with airbags record incident data, so speed, steering angles, accelerator and brake data will be held and retrievable, using the Event Data Recorder.
https://www.markbrownaea.co.uk/collision-data-retrieval/

 

[drinkmorejava]

FYI, in the US there is no vehicle telemetry. No SIM is installed because ineos was too cheap.

 

[DefenderGuy]

I've definitely heard of car ecu's recording data.

The only thing I found about data recording and sharing in the (US) owner's manual goes exactly to that point:

This vehicle is equipped with an event data recorder (EDR). The main purpose of an EDR is to record, in certain crash or near crash-like situations, such as an air bag deployment or hitting a road obstacle, data that will assist in understanding how a vehicle's systems performed. The EDR is designed to record data related to vehicle dynamics and safety systems for a short period of time, typically 30 seconds or less.

The EDR in this vehicle is designed to record such data as:

How various systems in your vehicle were operating;

Whether or not the driver and passenger safety belts were buckled/fastened;

How far (if at all) the driver was depressing the accelerator and/or brake pedal; and,

How fast the vehicle was traveling.

These data can help provide a better understanding of the circumstances in which crashes and injuries occur.

NOTE: EDR data are recorded by your vehicle only if a non-trivial crash situation occurs; no data are recorded by the EDR under normal driving conditions and no personal data (e.g., name, gender, age, and crash location) are recorded. However, other parties, such as law enforcement, could combine the EDR data with the type of personally identifying data routinely acquired during a crash investigation.

To read data recorded by an EDR, special equipment is required, and access to the vehicle or the EDR is needed. In addition to the vehicle manufacturer, other parties, such as law enforcement, that have the special equipment, can read the information if they have access to the vehicle or the EDR.

Source: Manual pages 16 and 17 (Emphasis added)

Nothing particularly troublesome here.