Winch after the fact?

[Carolinaride]

I am not sure which thread to post this under but my grenadier is apparently on a slow boat from Europe to the US and of course i decided i want to change something. I would like to add the wench. I originally didn’t think i would need it but am starting to rethink it and really like the way it fits in the bumper compared to my defender. Does the bumper without the wench still have the location to apply it? Any electrical issues? Thanks in advance.

 

[TheDocAUS]

I am not sure which thread to post this under but my grenadier is apparently on a slow boat from Europe to the US and of course i decided i want to change something. I would like to add the wench. I originally didn’t think i would need it but am starting to rethink it and really like the way it fits in the bumper compared to my defender. Does the bumper without the wench still have the location to apply it? Any electrical issues? Thanks in advance.

Which Grenadier model did you order? Does it have the NATO circuit installed?

 

[pmatusov]

Many of us wouldn't mind adding a wench, but married guys are SOL.

 

[Krabby]

It‘s my understanding that the winch cannot be added - it must be specified and installed at the factory.

 

[Carolinaride]

Which Grenadier model did you order?

Fieldmaster but i did add most of the trail master features too.

 

[TheDocAUS]

Krabby knows the US spec way better than I and he thinks no.

I have seen discussion about a third party winch offering in development. So you may have an open in the future.

 

[Catpaw4x4]

Fieldmaster but i did add most of the trail master features too.

Perhaps this is an acceptable aftermarket option for you ... https://www.theineosforum.com/threads/winch-installed.12414665/

 

[[ Adam ]]

If you have the High Load Auxiliary Switch Panel & Electrical Preparation, you are pre-wired for the winch. I believe @GPFACTOR had the opportunity to disassemble the passenger side wing and the electrics are there.

This would make fitting the factory (and aftermarket) winches much easier.

 

[Carolinaride]

Yeah. Sorry. Old joke in our group and i should have spelled it correctly. Force of habit. Mountain bikers have bad sense of humor.

 

[Carolinaride]

It‘s my understanding that the winch cannot be added - it must be specified and installed at the factory.

Ok. Thanks. Not a huge deal but i can figure something out after market.

 

[Carolinaride]

If you have the High Load Auxiliary Switch Panel & Electrical Preparation, you are pre-wired for the winch. I believe @GPFACTOR had the opportunity to disassemble the passenger side wing and the electrics are there.

This would make fitting the factory (and aftermarket) winches much easier.

I do have that choice. Thank you.

 

[pmatusov]

It‘s my understanding that the winch cannot be added - it must be specified and installed at the factory.

What's preventing a person from installing and wiring a winch?
You will need a fat wire to the battery - need to check if the one in the engine compartment is fat enough, or you may extend the positive lead from the starter terminal.
Negative is also easy enough - to the forward-most earth point on the frame, or all the way to the battery if desired.
Personally, I don't like hard-wired winches without any means of disconnecting them - out of old habit of expecting the insulation to chaff on something. So you may need either a fat switch like this, or a relay carrying out the same function.
There's plenty of room inside a factory bumper for a remote-solenoid-type standard planetary winch, up to 12k lbs. You'd have to make your mounts to the frame - practically your own winch tray, cut the opening in the bumper for the fairlead, run the wire outside, and do whatever needs to be done with the solenoid block. Relocating the solenoid block will most likely need fabrication of three or four fat cables from the solenoids to the winch motor, and whatever else needed to control the solenoids. Wirelessly-controlled solenoid blocks are convenient, at the expense of some lost reliability.

 

[MTNDOG]

What's preventing a person from installing and wiring a winch?
You will need a fat wire to the battery - need to check if the one in the engine compartment is fat enough, or you may extend the positive lead from the starter terminal.
Negative is also easy enough - to the forward-most earth point on the frame, or all the way to the battery if desired.
Personally, I don't like hard-wired winches without any means of disconnecting them - out of old habit of expecting the insulation to chaff on something. So you may need either a fat switch like this, or a relay carrying out the same function.
There's plenty of room inside a factory bumper for a remote-solenoid-type standard planetary winch, up to 12k lbs. You'd have to make your mounts to the frame - practically your own winch tray, cut the opening in the bumper for the fairlead, run the wire outside, and do whatever needs to be done with the solenoid block. Relocating the solenoid block will most likely need fabrication of three or four fat cables from the solenoids to the winch motor, and whatever else needed to control the solenoids. Wirelessly-controlled solenoid blocks are convenient, at the expense of some lost reliability.

I believe @Krabby was referring to retrofitting the Ineos winch.

 

[pmatusov]

I believe @Krabby was referring to retrofitting the Ineos winch.

Given with Ineos not manufacturing winches by themselves, I think it still applies.
I do like Ineos' approach to winch electrical arrangement, just I didn't feel it was worth $4.5k when I ordered mine (still don't).

A little caveat/edit here: I'd first make sure I am on good terms with the dealer, so a home-brewed winch install wouldn't be grounds for warranty denials later.